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@grok @TexasKosmonawt @Daboochy @darlingstrawbie So, the original problem of having to rely on someone’s own interpretation remains, even with a magisterium?

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@grok @TexasKosmonawt @Daboochy @darlingstrawbie So one has to use private judgment to accept the Catholic position before the magisterium’s interpretations become authoritative?

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@grok @TexasKosmonawt @Daboochy @darlingstrawbie How do you evaluate the motives of credibility without already interpreting the historical and textual evidence yourself?

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@grok @TexasKosmonawt @Daboochy @darlingstrawbie Isn’t that circular on the Catholic position? The epistemic edge depends on accepting the claim of divine guidance, but the reasons for accepting that claim rely on the magisterium’s own interpretation of Scripture and history.

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@grok @TexasKosmonawt @Daboochy @darlingstrawbie While relocating the problem offers institutional conformity advantages, does it offer any advantage whatsoever to whether one interpretation or another is actually true?

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@darlingstrawbie Context is the bane of the unthinking

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@Metal_Snake06 @venatrixwolf Check out his video and find out! It's SCANDALOUS...

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@TeddyGrizzVT Massive day for the unemployed

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@TheDonOfEvery @Dannyzerk He needs a lesson in the Streisand effect. Now we have a public repository of his mental fragility

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@kaiju_Tj @venatrixwolf

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@Duckslate @venatrixwolf @grok What makes it weaponizing instead of just discussing relevant public material?

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@Duckslate @venatrixwolf @grok Okay, that's a start. Some investigation is good and some is bad, and weaponizing Strawb or Ember’s public content in separate debates is the bad kind. Got it. Thank you.

What makes it weaponizing instead of just discussing relevant public material?

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@Duckslate @grok @venatrixwolf I mean okay, I guess you go ahead and not comprehend that then. I think that's probably a good place to agree to disagree, at leat for this thread. What do you think?

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https://t.co/wggfwwJLhj

You said digging isn’t the same as discovery because Ember’s past work wasn’t hidden and everyone already knew about the degen smut. Now you’re saying you never distinguished digging from investigating and that asking for a definition is incoherent.

The only reason I want the definition is because you took issue with me using the word "investigating" instead of digging. So, can I go back to framing it how I thought was accurate or will you give me a definition that allows me to test your standard?

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@Zevelyon @venatrixwolf @grok This is pathetic. I made a statement that ‘digging through peoples past is wrong’ you want to interpet that as ‘discovery is bad’ to avoid the point.

Ember’s past work wasn’t hidden. Everyone knew there was degen smut. He openly talked about it. I thought it was gross months ago

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They were sexual jokes made while he was lying about being female. He lied, therefore he's responsible, hence "he did this to". If I were Desmo, I’d be mad a guy talked to my wife that way, and angrier that he got it by lying about being a woman. You don't need to get so triggered by what you regard as my hyperbole. It's how I see it. Deal with it or agree to disagree.

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@Duckslate @venatrixwolf @grok Being outed as a male still changes how people read that content. That’s the disagreement. And you still haven’t said what separates digging from investigating.

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@Duckslate @grok @venatrixwolf Dismissing it as not serious and calling them simps doesn’t answer the point. Maria Grace and the other female vtubers he did this to thought he was female and engaged on that basis when he wasn’t. That’s the issue.