@Kakofoni0 Liceye dair hiçbir şey bilmediğin belli oldu, bide Liceliyim diyeceksin he. Biz kaç Kırdasi köy var biliriz, kim nerden gelmiş biliriz. Sizler de bizim kim olduğumuzu çok iyi bilirsiniz. Üzüntünü anlıyorum ama unutma, zıwono leq sarı teq.
@Astarinn Zazaların çoğunda seyyidlik iddiası var, bu demek değil ki öyleyiz. Vergi muafiyeti, soy dayandırma, prestij vs. Secereler de çoğu Bağdat’dan çıktığımızda bizlere verildi. Umarım çevirisi yapılır ve topluma kazandırılır.
@KurdiCompendium However, the article uses standard tools like PCA, f-statistics, and qpadm with a large reference set. Although admixture is acknowledged in the Post-Sassanid period, the main claim of the article is the continuity between Chalco and Sassanian. Thank you
@KurdiCompendium Moreover, a single Y does not invalidate the autosomal genetic cline and overall continuity of individual branches. If there is a migration hypothesis from Hissar, lines like Z7700 are already compatible within that cline.
@KurdiCompendium J2 lineages etc Z7700 are widespread in the Hissar/BMAC interaction area. Id think its correct to single out individual clades as Hissar-mediated. Autosomal+general cline is accuratewith this view.If Gutians came from Hissar, their genetics are already in that continuity stock
@KurdiCompendium Claim that samples have noDecoupling among themselves is cherry-picking or misreading. Article shows the opposite with PCA, f-statistics and QPADM. Local continuity along the east-west cline, with minor western admixture. Huge influx since Chalc'distorts the findings of article
@KurdiCompendium W the fact of 3000 years of genetic continuity from Chalc to Sasanian on N_Iranian plateau, you can model the TepeHissar group using historical Iranian samples.BMAC is the same wide stock as Gonur/Sapalli, bcs strong affinity.This cline has left its mark on modern ‘N_Iranians.’
@KurdiCompendium Argument is weak and cherry-picking. The migration from Tepe Hissar to Zagros makes archaeological sense.Your comment about Zarins is indeed accurate.But jumping to the conclusion from here that ‘Gutian genetics are irrelevant to Iranians/Kurds , Hissar clades are rare' is absurd
@MadaKardaka Kakuyid (Kakwayhid) Daylamî silver dirham, mint off flan (Sabur Khwast?) 414 (?) AH
Muhammad ibn Dushmanziyar (before 1008-1041 AD)
‘Buyid Majd al-Dawlah/Sama al-Dawlah/al-Qadir billah’
@Yusufsaladin22 J-Z7706>J2a-L192>J-BY238 soyundalar.
Bu soyda Bağdat Malekshahi Feyli Kürdleri, Maghalashvili Gürcü Kraliyet ailesi, Zakarid soyu ve Hindistan’a göç etmiş Hristiyan olan Manakalathil'iler var.
J-Z7706>J2a-L192>SK1381 ise Zaza’ların en çok bulunduğu soydur.