"Everything that lives is designed to end. We are perpetually trapped in a never-ending spiral of life and death. Is this a curse? Or some kind of punishment? I often think about the god who blessed us with this cryptic puzzle...and wonder if we'll ever get the chance to kill him."
Featuring a cameo from Juno.
#NieRAutomata
It was still trained the same way as Image and Video gen.
So if you think ImageGen is theft, then you must think this was also theft, since the AI fix was "stealing" from all the code it has been trained on.
This is why I find Antis so fascinating. They don't seem to be able to comprehend anything beyond the immediate.
He didn't want this.
And it was, by far, the worst choice she made in the whole game.
The ENTIRE TRAGEDY OF OOT STARTED because of her bad choice to use Link to open the Door of Time, giving Ganondorf full access to the Sacred Realm while sealing Link away for 7 years, letting Ganondorf have his way for all of those years.
And after Link rights that wrong by defeating Ganondorf, Zelda chooses to SEND HIM AWAY?
GIRL!
GIRL, NO!
And then, within her own lifetime, Ganondorf breaks free and there's no Link to oppose him.
That's TWICE that Zelda's choice left Ganondorf free to ravage Hyrule without opposition.
Except this time, THERE IS NO LINK! No "oh he's just sleeping, he'll be back in a few years", no Reincarnation of the Hero because the Spirit of the Hero went back with Link. Nothing.
In trying to give Link his childhook back, she just doomed the entire Kingdom Link saved. The Gods flood the world, wipe out most sentient life and now it's up to some small island boy to (literally) pick up the broken pieces and save the world.
I read it as "The Door of Time transcends time itself".
The door can be both open and closed at the same time. Originally, it was closed. But now that Link is on the other side of the door, it is open.
It is both open and closed at the same time. The moment Link leaves that room, if he turns around the door will be closed.
Since so many people are playing Ocarina of Time for the first time, I'd like to bring back this little nugget of info.
Zelda says everything that happened was her fault.
She let Ganondorf into the Sacred Realm by having Link open the Door of Time, which ultimately lead to the terrible future.
She believes she robbed Link of his childhood as well, so her final Act in the Adult Timeline is to send Link back in time.
Yet this act is probably her most selfish one.
She doesn't ask Link. She doesn't make sure it's what he wants. She decides for him, takes the Ocarina and sends him back to before they first met.
The moment Link leaves that room, the Door of Time will close and since the Ocarina of Time itself is now in the Future, he has no way to reopen it. His pathway to the Future is forever locked.
Without his consent, she sent Link back to a timeline he never saved. All his turmoil, all his hardship, everything he struggled and fought for? That exists in the Adult Timeline. The Timeline he's ended up in? The only canon event to take place in the Child timeline is the death of the Great Deku Tree. Link never beat King Dodongo or saved Ruto in the Child timeline.
He has basically been sent to a time where he is just a homeless boy from the forest. No fame, no recognition, nothing.
And as we see in Twilight Princess, he never even got to pass down the skills he learned during his life to the next generation. He died in battle. A nameless, faceless knight.
He wasn't even recognized for uncovering Ganondorf's plot to betray Hyrule.
But worse than that, Zelda split the timeline. Her actions here are what split the timeline into the Adult and Child timelines.
The Child timeline sees Link die a nameless warrior with lingering regrets in a world that saw him as nothing more than another expendable.
Oh, and Ganondorf? Survived his execution and goes on to torment and control an entirely separate species in another realm.
Well Done, Zelda.
In trying to undo your fuck up, you fucked up even worse!
BUT IT GETS EVEN WORSE!
In the Adult timeline, the Sage's power wanes and Ganondorf is able to break free anyway. Except, because Link was sent to another timeline, the Spirit of the Hero doesn't exist in the Adult Timeline. So when Ganondorf DOES break free, THERE IS NO REINCARNATION OF THE HERO! So Ganondorf just goes to town with no one to stop him until the Hylian people pray hard enough so the Gods flood the world, wiping out most life and leaving the survivors to cling to the mountain tops.
Well Done, Zelda!
In trying to undo your fuck up, YOU CREATED AN ALTERNATE TIMELINE AND DOOMED BOTH TO AN ERA OF DESTRUCTION AND TURMOIL!
If Zelda had just done nothing here then only one single 7 year period would have been tained by Ganondorf. There would be no Child timeline, and the Spirit of the Hero would still exist to reincarnate to oppose Ganondorf when he broke free.
But no. She just HAD to be all "Oh I ruined your childhood and took away 7 years of your life. I'll send you back without asking", and basically resulted in most sentient life being wiped out in her own timeline while dooming an entire species to 100 years of torment and abuse in the other timeline.
Fantastic. 10/10. No notes.
#oot #ootremake
Its more implied that they activated in response to Ganon's reawakening.
Once Ganon awakens, they activate so the Hero can use them to grow strong enough to face the threat. They can't open without sensing Ganon, as they appear to be one and dones. It would be a bit pointless to train a hero if Ganon doesn't appear in that generation.
Oh no doubt. Most of it is hindsight. Neither of them knew the outcome of sending him back.
But with that hindsight, we can see how damaging it was, and how really there was no need for it.
Zelda made the choice, independently from Link. There was no discussion, no time to think, no time to plan. Just "Okay, Ganondorf is defeated. Time to go back."
Maybe if they had time to think it over, they would have decided Link's best place would be here, by her side, so they could rebuild Hyrule and have Link to hand if something goes wrong. I mean, Link is basically a requirement here, he's the only one who can wield the Master Sword.
It's not like Time was really a factor, Zelda could have sent him back at any point. Maybe a week from now, or a year from now, they decide to send him back. Easy peasy.
@PunishedErik They literally didn't touch the Music cue. The visual effect only triggers once you're inside the tunnel.
Unless you play with the volume off, you're not going to use the visual cue to find your way. But it does offer deaf people an alternative to looking up the correct route.
The idea is that time always splits. Multiverse theory. There is a timeline where Link dies inside the Deku Tree. We just never see that timeline continue beyond the GAME OVER screen, but if they wanted to they COULD make a new Zelda game based in the timeline where Link died during his first dungeon.
That is, essentially, what the downfall timeline is. What if Link died during the final battle against Ganon? It probably happens when he's disarmed, because that would be the only real opportunity where Link cannot fight back effectively.
How he loses is never stated. Only that he does.
As for why they even bothered to make games in a timeline where he fails, who knows? Most of the early games take place in the Downfall timeline, so they probably just wanted a way to tell new stories without having to rely on the old games history.
As for the lore reason?
Maybe by sending Link back in time, Zelda caused a major rift in time. Splitting the Adult and Child timelines caused a ripple effect, tearing open a third timeline centered around another major event. That event being Link's death. It would be the next most important event, so the tear culminated around that event and created the Downfall timeline.
@Elvick@nonetosee@KloverKlub14 Subtle, in this context, means it is not out of place.
Concept art from Mario 64 hanging in a fantasy castle is out of place.
A brooch styled after a magical fire-breathing turtle monster that just happens to resemble another Nintendo character is not out of place.
If I recall correctly, Link being sent back in time to before the Triforce split while still having the Triforce of Courage caused the Triforce of the past to split.
There can't be two of the same Triforce pieces, it's an object of higher power and functions above Time. So the moment Child Link, with the Triforce of Courage, shows up the Triforce itself splits.
Link already has Courage, Zelda is given Wisdom and Ganondorf gets Power.
So add that to the list - by sending Link back to before they first met Zelda unknowingly gave Child TL Ganondorf the Triforce of Power anyway.
There really was no way to avoid that.
@MegaShiningButt Well, he would still need the Emerald, Ruby and Sapphire to open the Door of Time, but he doesn't have them anymore. Well, he might still have the Emerald since that was the one canon event that doesn't get undone by Zelda sending him back.