@Th3_h3ll_h0unD@DetestingArtful@togive12466@ClayGregg4@beyoncegarden Maybe it’s confusing to you, but for me and most of us it’s quite a basic concept to grasp. You’re either a male or female, you can think that you belong to the other gender but you can’t really change who you are intrinsically. You can try though, just leave kids out of this
@Th3_h3ll_h0unD@DetestingArtful@togive12466@ClayGregg4@beyoncegarden You can believe that they are not the same if it makes you feel better, it’s a free world 😄
Fortunately though you cannot insist that the rest of us live in cuckoo land too
Male or female is determined by your biology, people are born into their gender and they can’t change it
@togive12466@Th3_h3ll_h0unD@DetestingArtful@ClayGregg4@beyoncegarden It’s very easy to know what gender someone belongs to, it’s not rocket science mate. These one in a billion outliers don’t have any statistical significance, and for the vast majority of trans cases this is not even applicable. People just pretend like everything is complicated.
@Th3_h3ll_h0unD@DetestingArtful@togive12466@ClayGregg4@beyoncegarden I’m sure that some people are very different, but that doesn’t change the definition of what male or female is.
How many fingers do humans have on each hand? Should we not say we have five fingers because there are some individuals with more or less?
Gender works the same way
@Th3_h3ll_h0unD@DetestingArtful@togive12466@ClayGregg4@beyoncegarden I don’t know any biological men who lactate, maybe they’re all in your family mate.
There can be individual cases of hormone imbalances but that doesn’t mean that they are suddenly a woman now. COMMON SENSE first
@togive12466@ClayGregg4@DetestingArtful@beyoncegarden Um no. Live your life, leave kids alone. I don’t want to normalize this in schools or encourage children to “transition” and destroy their lives.
Further reinforces the idea that it’s a mental illness. These people need help to deal with that, not to spread it onto kids
@togive12466@ClayGregg4@DetestingArtful@beyoncegarden It is not a matter of consensus, but sure. For most of us there’s no divergence between who you are and who you think you are. Personally beyond a point I don’t care what people think they are, it becomes a problem when they try to indoctrinate kids, enter female washrooms etc.
@togive12466@DetestingArtful@ClayGregg4@beyoncegarden I use “pretend” to draw a contrast between reality and make-believe.
See, when people someone is male or female they don’t mean “their identity” but rather the reality of their biological nature. Not sure if you thought otherwise, then the whole thread is a misunderstanding
@togive12466@DetestingArtful@ClayGregg4@beyoncegarden Using the superpower of observation 😄
Look, it doesn’t HAVE to be the case that the sun rises in the east, but it just is. Ontologically.
You can call it the north instead, but that doesn’t mean everyone else now has to change what east means. These are very different things
@togive12466@DetestingArtful@ClayGregg4@beyoncegarden I don’t agree with the advice, but like I said before adults are free to pretend whatever they want, at least in the west.
Doesn’t mean that people with female chromosomes can become male (or vice versa) though, that’s a completely different biological claim.
@DetestingArtful@togive12466@ClayGregg4@beyoncegarden Well I am giving my opinion here of course and you seem to care enough to reply, guess you’re not people
If you want to be objective you can look at DNA to determine gender but for the vast majority of cases it’s not that complicated. Not everything is a niche trans issue
@DetestingArtful@togive12466@ClayGregg4@beyoncegarden I never did any of those things my friend. There’s no need to argue with anyone 😄
Just saying, people can pretend all they want but things like race, gender, etc are intrinsic to who you are as a person and fortunately or unfortunately you can’t really change them
@togive12466@ClayGregg4@beyoncegarden Well everyone struggles with something, and admittedly you can never really know what someone else is going through.
But at the same time we have to recognize that people wanting something doesn’t necessarily make it good for them. You’d take an addict to rehab not to a dealer
@DetestingArtful @togive12466@ClayGregg4@beyoncegarden For starters I’d call it natural if by body produces it by nature. If I get it externally through drugs then it’s not natural. Simple enough?
I mean informed adults can do what they want with themselves, but the op was about gender and you can’t wish yourself into another gender