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@Just_AnS_ @vxunderground @cgarciae88 maybe there is a misunderstanding, i dont think LLMs have conciousness.
The point of my initial response to you is that meaningful discussion or talking with certainty about possibility of conciousness requires worldview analysis
you may have missed this
https://t.co/udsKCIo0Fn

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@Just_AnS_ @vxunderground @cgarciae88 that's why i mention below that i think a prior question that one needs to address to substantially answer the conciousness question is "which is the right worldview"
https://t.co/6bBhhK5wDt

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@Just_AnS_ @vxunderground @cgarciae88 that's why i mention below that i think a prior question that one needs to address to substantially answer the conciousness question is "which is the right worldview"
https://t.co/6bBhhK5wDt

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@cgarciae88 the question ultimately rests on a metaphysical commitment (see "hard problem of consciousness")
So you can't have a traditional proof for neither position
This is where transcendental worldview analysis comes into play
a readable intro on the topic here: https://t.co/WA21Gn258H

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@Just_AnS_ @vxunderground @cgarciae88 i was referring to the Computation Theory of Mind (central in cognitive science) and the different research programs associated with it
regardless of that, answering whether LLM conciousness is possible entails a metaphysical position eg nature of mental states(eg Functionalism)

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@cgarciae88 the question ultimately rests on a metaphysical commitment (see "hard problem of consciousness")
So you can't have a traditional proof for neither position
This is where transcendental worldview analysis comes into play
a readable intro on the topic here: https://t.co/WA21Gn258H

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@vxunderground @cgarciae88 that's kind of how typical atheists describe human mind with concioussness emerging from matter
So when people talk about the possibility of consciousness in llms it's more like wishful thinking to provide some rational basis to their otherwise unscientific/irrational worldview

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@AFpost that's more like evidence of unconsciousness (of Dawkins)

[Science girl @sciencegirl]

8 weeks mold aged tuna

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@craigcandor @ByJimbob @SpeedWatkins notes: gemini 3.1 pro seems to be the most precise to analyze the points (vs GLM 5, sonnet 4.6+, ~chatgpt), all still missed that order of discovery |/> order of justification on p2

on p3: concrete in the sense that God is causally efficacious (creator/sustainer of reality)

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@craigcandor @ByJimbob @SpeedWatkins 1.your retorsion arg at best provides conceptual/psychological necessity
2.psychological/temporal priority != logical epistemic/metaphysical priority. you know sun (God) through sunlight (logic), but sun > sunlight
3.God is a necessary concrete personal being, no grounding needed

[Joe Desimone @dez_]

Patch Diff to SYSTEM - using LLMs to exploit a LPE vuln on Windows. More importantly, some thoughts on model capabilities the implications on our security industry https://t.co/wmPNfoLbt8

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@sol_roi @nnwakelam even the possibility of moral convergence presupposes the existence of common metaethics and for stability concioussness.But ask 10 people about their metaethics you will get 11 different answers.Given also the impossibility of concioussness you can never rely on llms for ethics

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@andersonc0d3 you may find this interesting as well, discusses potential side-effects + other ways of optimizing blood lipids
https://t.co/aH0uuZnQx7

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@ByJimbob @Halalcoholism At least he got the first part right. People dont understand evolution, or more precisely they *can't* understand it but that's because it's an unintelligible metaphysical stance. Correct diagnosis, wrong root cause analysis

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@IceSolst @seanmeals typically a quick success presupposes 100 slow failures
that's why a researcher needs to properly allocate his resources, but to do that he needs reliable bug bounty terms
so time spent is irrelevant in this discussion, the question is whether they actually breached their terms

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@Dave93185813 @DrJackKruse needs a faithful atheist as well. an interesting article that refers to this issue:

https://t.co/N83ert19rC

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@vxunderground @IceSolst it's kind of a PoW to silence/discredit people who are timid. maybe we can call it PoB-proof of balls
those labels are used often,eg conspracy theory,antivax,nazi,islamophobe,racist
but agreed that speaking without reasonable (not total) level of knowledge in a topic is also bad

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@vxunderground @IceSolst During the Soviet era, one could have also been called "antisemite" for criticising the holocaust of Orthodox Christians by the Bolshevik regime. That label doesnt make the criticism invalid it just increases the cost one has to pay to raise their voices

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@ByJimbob @DrNeilStone he meant fiat not fight

fiat science with fiater science

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@rvrsh3ll overall, if goal is to lose body fat, fasted in the morning+zone 2 exercise i would expect to have maximum effectiveness

if peak performance is the goal, especially if the performance is tied to an activity requiring high-power output then fed-state in the afternoon

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@rvrsh3ll Another interesting fact: muscle is much less energy-dense than fat. So what he says at the start doesn’t make sense. If the ladies were burning muscle, they’d lose more weight than if they used fat. They didn’t lose weight likely because they were eating too much.