@Zak059237393216@IbnalIskandar We understand the religion as the sahabah understood it and the two sahabah who narrated the hadith of the beard used to take what is after the hand fist so it is permissible barak Allah feek
@HarounKanj it was explained that each epoch is about seventy years, meaning it has a beginning and an end.But the genus (nature) of the punishment of Hellfire has no end.
Therefore, if we allow this concept for the future, it is also permissible for the past,and there is no contradiction
@HarounKanj This is rationally conceivable regarding the future. For example, Paradise, (its sustenance is perpetual, and its shade) just as Allah said. However, every individual meal has a beginning and an end. Or, for instance, the epochs (ahqab) of the people of Hellfire;
@MuslimLiberty24@Haqiqatjou You see that is your problem. the earliest you mentioned was a layman centuries after the salaf passed away and the hadeeth is weak so you can't use it in your argument. Also if taking from greek philosophy and leaving Islam is intellect I'd rather be ignorant
@rafidHali @Ahmedbnasr2020 هناك فرق بين أمر الله القدري وأمره الشرعي، الله يمكن أن يقدر شيئا ولكن لا يستلزم أن يحبه وأيضا أن يأمر بشيء ولا يستلزم وقوعه، وفي كل تقدير الله خير باطن، مثل هؤلاء أهلي وأولاد عمومي- أنا من هذه القرية- من مات منهم فهو شهيد بإذن الله تعالى ومن حي منهم فهي كفارة له على ذنوبه