@LudwigNverMises They still have missiles/drones to fuck up their neighbors / the Strait, so they have their deterrence. In fact, they understand it now. Plus, we sidelined their moderates, pushed them closer to China, used up a ton munitions, and showed China US force projection is very limited.
@LudwigNverMises Israel already has nukes there and Iran was purposefully sitting at the can-become-nuclear stage to be a deterrence while avoiding triggering a war (and also avoid triggering a rush to nukes by the Saudis, UAE, Turkey, etc.). This was a very expensive non-change of status quo.
@tiredhungryangr@NWoodeSmith No one was arguing the point you made was incorrect, so you didn't need additional evidence for it. You are being shitty and pedantic by ignoring the point being made to issue a correction that is both known to everyone and irrelevant to the discussion.
@Dystop1anFvtvre@BozoProzo Agreed. It's kind of weird so many people don't want to (due to the whole evolution thing), but it's definitely better for everyone that many of them don't (and thus is moral).
@tiredhungryangr@NWoodeSmith I think everyone is aware the Germans invaded the USSR. Pointing that out while just ignoring the point he was actually making is just being shitty and pedantic.
@mattwr@no_siesta_@AGHamilton29 Massie is an actual conservative - not just a right-wing populist - who created a law requiring the release of the Epstein files (which Trump is actively thwarting). I mean, you aren't going to look very good on this in retrospect.
@bennoba@JimHansonDC I'm basically agreeing with you. He seemed to have some kind of a definition in mind when he originally started using it, but it's so selectively enforced as to be meaningless.
@RuthSocial69@RichardHanania What part is incorrect about it? It's a well documented tax avoiding strategy that the ProPublica leaks show is being used heavily.
@RokoMijic@jusderaisingroy@NeoliberalAkiho We aren't anywhere near that being profitable. We are gambling we can figure it out in time, but we aren't leaving ourselves a ton of runway.
@ConceptualJames@RepThomasMassie It's hardly just money to Israel. The US gives Israel a seat at the UN security council and pays / suffers the blowback of financing and politically supporting Israel-friendly dictators in all of Israel's neighbors.
@enggirlfriend The ProPublica leaks showing people like Bezos paying literally zero in income taxes and that there will never be capital gains on the stocks they borrow against and then transfer to their children doesn't help their image much.
@ConceptualJames "Real conservatives" - Trump isn't even a conservative, he is a right-wing populist, as are the various Woke Righters. The difference between them is just how much influence they think Israel does have/should have on US policy.