@Sahilkhan868@Ahmadiyyafacts Whr your reference?The ayat mention mirza kuffar name?or mirza ibn maryam?or this Al-Jumu’ah 62:3–4 — “others who have not yet joined them”?😂😂
@AdamWalkerGB Alhamdulillah born a Muslim,follow the teachings of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, and his Companions and the scholars of Islam throughout the generations.
We believe Muhammad ﷺ is the final Prophet and Messenger. We hold firmly to the Qur’an and Sunnah
@hollow_luffy@Hamooza_02@MrAdnanRashid The overwhelming majority of Muslims rejected his claim to be Isa ibn Maryam. So where is the actual proof—not just a resemblance or interpretation—that Allah appointed Mirza as Isa? 🤷🏼♂️”
@hollow_luffy@Hamooza_02@MrAdnanRashid I’ve asked for actual evidence manytimes,still haven’t provided a single clear Qur’anic verse or authentic hadith stating that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian is Isa ibn Maryam. All you keep giving are interpretations, analogies, and sources that are disputed or unauthenticated.
@hollow_luffy@Hamooza_02@MrAdnanRashid But there is an important distinction: showing that a description resembles Mirza does not by itself prove that Mirza is the person intended by the hadith. You would still need to establish the identification from the Qur’an, authentic hadith, and the historical contex.where???
@hollow_luffy@Hamooza_02@MrAdnanRashid Yes — exactly. The point is that the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ gave two descriptions concerning “Isa ibn Maryam”, and the argument is that the characteristics in one description can be compared with the characteristics claimed by Mirza.
@hollow_luffy@Hamooza_02@MrAdnanRashid The hadith explicitly identifies the person as “Isa ibn Maryam,” not “a person resembling Isa” or “the metaphorical Messiah”.Similarity in physical description does not establish identity.
@Hamooza_02@hollow_luffy@MrAdnanRashid “Which authentic hadith says that ‘ākhārīna minhum’ in Surah al-Jumu‘ah 62:3 refers specifically to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian?”debunk again?
@Hamooza_02@hollow_luffy@MrAdnanRashid Where does Surah al-Jumu‘ah 62:3 say that these “others” are a prophet?
“He is the One who raised among the unlettered a Messenger from among themselves…”
“others who have not yet joined them.”
@Hamooza_02@hollow_luffy@MrAdnanRashid So saying ‘the Promised Messiah is mentioned in Surah Al-Jumu‘ah’ is an interpretation, not an explicit Qur’anic identification. Where does the verse say those ‘others’ are a new prophet?”🤷🏼only ahmadis accept your blind explaination
@Hamooza_02@hollow_luffy@MrAdnanRashid ialah:
“Surah 62:3 does not mention Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Qadian, India, the Mahdi, or a prophet after Muhammad ﷺ. The verse simply says ‘others among them who have not yet joined them,’ and authentic hadith explains this as later people who would receive the Prophet’s message.
@SpreadHaqq@MessiahAS313 And where exactly does the Qur’an or any authentic hadith say that the promised Mahdi would be Mirza Ghulam Ahmad kafir of Qadian? You cannot simply insert Mirza’s name into prophecies that never mention him. Show the evidence first—not an interpretation created afterwards.
@SpreadHaqq@MessiahAS313 More importantly, if 5:117 means ‘Isa AS physically died before his return, then you still have to explain the explicit Sahih hadith describing ‘Isa ibn Maryam himself descending near the end times. Grammar cannot override clear prophetic reports.
@SpreadHaqq@MessiahAS313 You’re assuming that “Allah is the faa‘il and ‘Isa is the maf‘ool” automatically means physical death. That doesn’t follow. The Qur’an uses the same root for Allah taking souls during sleep (39:42), so the grammatical construction itself does not prove death.
@hollow_luffy@MrAdnanRashid People converting proves only that people can be convinced. It does not prove the doctrine is true. If you have facts and figures, start with the Qur’an and authentic hadith that explicitly name or identify Mirza Ghulam Ahmad—not personal testimonies.
@hollow_luffy@MrAdnanRashid In my country lot leaving this cult after reading mirza book,they only know basic about the cult and after make some research especially hadis and r.kuzain.why they not expose?ofc because a family
@iamhalall@MrAdnanRashid Lol i cant see my self to follow indian fake prophet while Muhammad s.a.w the last nabi already mention clear hadis about prophet after him.why are u guys still blind?😌