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[Torian @aguatorian]

@heatbit_com Will it ship to Norway?

[Torian @aguatorian]

@SebastienBubeck it's great but it is lagging a lot! imported my current paper, but still prefer using overleaf due to the lag.. any plan to fix this?

[Torian @aguatorian]

@apsk32 Curious: does BTC follow a power curve in ETH? If not from the start, maybe from the point where ETH transitioned to PoS? Great charts btw!

[Torian @aguatorian]

@Flaatens @eivindtraedal Sikkert litt som salt før i tida ja. Helt til man fant ut at verdien av salt forsvant da de økte produksjonen, så det egnet seg fryktelig dårlig som penger!

Produksjonen av bitcoin er forutsigbar, så det skjer nok ikke der :-)

[Torian @aguatorian]

@norsats @AlanDelalic «Vil du ha Bitcoin?» Hvis ja: få de til å laste ned Wallet of Satoshi og send dem noen sats :) Rett frem adopsjon!

[Torian @aguatorian]

@OleEmilAugland1 Tror ikke det skjer. Alle bruker internett daglig men de færreste forstår det, og det er helt greit! :) Tipper det samme skjer med Bitcoin

[Daniel Batten @DSBatten]

You are welcome to your opinion

Equally, when you say "Bitcoin is useless", you are saying that each and every one of the recorded usecases of Bitcoin is useless

In other words, you are saying:

1. Helping bring energy abundance to these 1800 African villagers have no value https://t.co/bgOaasQeUG

2. Getting aid to 1000s of war refugees is useless https://t.co/WKD4FNPGlq

3 Developing energy independence for Bhutan is useless https://t.co/fKBkfEKDea

4. Protecting National Parks in Africa is useless https://t.co/455ChX6f9P

5. Helping 19.4 million Afghanastani women avoid State-level financial discrimination is useless
https://t.co/GsClHWJn7H

6. Establishing the economic sovereignty of 14 African nations still experiencing French financial colonization is useless https://t.co/s18NsVHKKT

7. The idea of creating an alternative to a monetary system which can and does elongate wars, increase wealth gaps, bail out bankers but fail to protect employees and small businesses is useless https://t.co/T6D7yoGZdz

8. The potential to provide banking to up to 2 Billion unbanked is useless https://t.co/fKBkfEKDea… https://t.co/T4mjBZ8oRo

9. Providing a financial system that is harder to use for money laundering than fiat currency is useless https://t.co/CLghbaZfU5

10. Removing the risk of financial reprisal for running humanitarian campaigns in autocratic nations where 5.7Billion people live is useless https://t.co/2KM9kuAUQp

11. Providing 250 Million people in countries experiencing hyperinflation a means to stop 50%+ erosion of their family savings per year is useless https://t.co/7Yu7IpSSpd

12. Allowing people in developing nations to receive remittance payments from family without delays and without heavy fees is useless https://t.co/NWTeMOLUny

13. Having a secure, permissionless, decentralized, 24/7 store of value with fixed monetary supply is useless https://t.co/J75wOAXWzS

14. The accomplishment of becoming the world's most sustainably powered industry is useless https://t.co/llglfd47WY

15. Accelerating the renewable transition by making renewable generation more profitable is useless https://t.co/4SCHxTMRBu

16. Reducing more emissions from landfills than the largest DAC project in the world ever achieved is useless https://t.co/5IysyKbWrg

17. Developing an monetary financial system with significantly lower emissions and emissions intensity than the banking system is useless https://t.co/RIiW2jx63R… https://t.co/IGf5oq4Fv9

Arguing that even one of these things is useless, or that Bitcoin does not deliver this promised value would I think be difficult. Though, have a go if you wish.

But arguing that all 17 have are useless (which you'd need to do in order to contend that Bitcoin is useless)? That would require mental gymnastics beyond the level to justify flat-earth theory.

It's rare I see a technology with one benefits akin to the ones above. But to have 17 usecases of such world-changing dimension - that is a once in a generation technology.

[Torian @aguatorian]

@NaessRobert Du tillegger bitcoin null verdi, mens markedet stadig gir det økt verdi, noe som reflekteres i prisen. Hva tror du er årsaken til at markedet er uenig med deg? Hvilken verdi er det markedet tillegger bitcoin?

[Torian @aguatorian]

@Jackzzprut @NaessRobert @TorbjrnBullJens Som all verdisetting, utfordrende! @NaessRobert er dyktig der. Starte smått/enkelt: Hvis 5% av 2 mrd. uten bank bruker BTC og holder $100 hver → $10 mrd. mer etterspørsel; Estimer potensialet i fornybar energi-industrien og hvordan BTC må brukes for å gjøre den profitabel. Osv..

[Torian @aguatorian]

@Jackzzprut @NaessRobert @TorbjrnBullJens Kun fra et investeringsperspektiv?

- Finansiell inkludering og bruk i undertrykkede regimer: åpner nye markeder, øker etterspørsel.
- Fornybar energi: Bitcoin som katalysator for verdiskaping i nye, store industrier.

Verdifulle bruksområder → høyere etterspørsel → økt verdi.

[Torian @aguatorian]

@NaessRobert @TorbjrnBullJens Noen verdidrivere – kom gjerne med motsvar!
- Finansiell inkludering for over 2 milliarder mennesker uten banktilgang.
- Verktøy for hjelpeorganisasjoner (sensurresistent i undertrykkende regimer).
- Gjør fornybar energi lønnsom – insentiverer og akselererer det grønne skiftet.

[Torian @aguatorian]

@DSBatten @CNBC @tdichristopher Thanks, I’ll share and get back to you. In the meantime, I’ll give you some feedback myself: It’s a masterpiece.

[Torian @aguatorian]

@DSBatten @CNBC @tdichristopher Absolutely! I'm actively trying. It's challenging, though: Some refuse to take Bitcoin seriously, even though they are cryptographers and infosec experts. I'd greatly appreciate any tips on how to talk to them (you've been excellent on podcasts!). I'll get back to you.

[Torian @aguatorian]

@DSBatten @CNBC @tdichristopher Interesting! Thanks for taking the time. I work in academia and have been trying to discuss Bitcoin in a more positive (or at least neutral) light🇳🇴 You're an inspiration doing this! I'll dive into the sources to correctly back up my arguments. Keep it up-we'll follow your lead:)

[Torian @aguatorian]

@BeagleBitcoin @saylor @adam3us @Excellion @dylanleclair @PeterMcCormack @natbrunell @dotkrueger @JoeCarlasare @PrestonPysh @BitcoinPierre @jackmallers @jack @jameslavish @aantonop!

[Torian @aguatorian]

@DSBatten @CNBC @tdichristopher So yes, mining lowers prices. However, in some cases, due to expanded grids (increased grid fees), prices can increase even more if miners shut down after the grid has been expanded for them. ‘Normies’ might not want to take this risk. How do I talk with them to convince them?

[Torian @aguatorian]

@DSBatten @CNBC @tdichristopher It lowers prices because miners pay the grid fees, reducing costs for consumers (even if grid operators expand the grid for miners). However, if the grid is expanded and the miner shuts down (as in this case), consumers face higher grid fees than before the miner arrived.

[Torian @aguatorian]

@DSBatten @CNBC @tdichristopher Indeed, prices spiked when mining stopped. However: Introducing miners expanded the physical grid, raising costs shared by all. After the ban, consumers alone must cover the costs. Without mining in the first place, the grid wouldn’t have expanded, avoiding the price increase.