@dilanesper And by “got them the oslo process” do you mean “israel continued illegally expanding settlements and stealing land”?
And for the record, i do not support targeting of civilians by anyone—be it Israel or Hamas
@dilanesper Do you honestly believe that the israeli public doesn’t actually support destroying hamas? That if they get the hostages back they will be okay withdrawing while hamas still exists?
@dilanesper Huh? The whole reason they slaughter so many civilians isn’t that “we need to get the hostages back”, its that “hamas uses civilians as shields”. If the goal is to destroy hamas, they aren’t even close, and will need to DECIMATE the palestinian people. The hostages are irrelevant
@dilanesper For the record, you switched from your initial post making an empirical, pragmatic argument to a moral case. But just for the record, i oppose all targeting of civilians, which includes hamas holding hostages
@dilanesper You really believe that, among *enormous* israeli protests supporting a ceasefire to get the hostages back, that the driver for support for the war is hostages, and not “hamas attacked us on 10/7 and we must destroy them”?
@agraybee Among those “various reasons” is that americans don’t have any leverage over hamas. We already don’t arm them, condemn them, etc. What US policy do you want wrt Hamas besides “don’t hold israel accountable for any of its war crimes”