We are constantly told that the war in Ukraine was "unprovoked"
But then I see this interview with Victoria Nuland from April 2014 and realize that I had simply been fed a carefully fabricated narrative.....
@DevinPifer The front is that way big man --> off you go.
Also, why have you got the flag of Ukraine, of a country that is raising statues of antisemitic, mass murderous, WWII Nazi collaborator "national heroes", alongside a flag of Israel? Seems a bit of an incoherent hot mess to me
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@jurgen_nauditt Your country is being economically broken, and thus primed by the US/UK Bankers to have a war with Russia... for the 3rd time in a little over a century. You're literally cheerleading the ideological descendants of WWII fascist and Nazi collaborators in Ukraine. STFU.
@CarrieG72160643@saintjavelin So you don't know your history and about the nuclear missiles in turkey, that the USSR sought to counterbalance in Cuba? Thanks for confirming that you don't know the first thing about what you're talking about. And for confirming that yes, you are an incoherent hypocrite.
@1foreverseeking@tparsi It becomes increasingly difficult to reach any conclusions other than 1) Europe's leadership are abject, craven, pathetic, snivelling supplicants to the US, or 2) they're actually trying to deliberately push us into economic crisis and depression, or 3) yes
@markomihkelson And there's also the small matter that the US and Europe only know uo to beat up on civilians and peasant guerilla armies,not nuclear armed, industrial powerhouse, near peer adversaries, no matter how much whining and keening you do.
@markomihkelson Oh you silly sausage. The difference is Ukraine is viewed as a sacrificial proxy to be used and cast asunder when it's usefulness expires, where as Saudi is where europe gets its oil from. Did you think your champions in Europe ever gave solitary fuck about Ukraine? Bless.
@drhingram@s_charlene Its always a sign of a strong argument when you resort to ad hominem fallacies, over and over again. We can add that to your initial ridiculous false equivalence fallacy. What are you doctor of, sorry?
@drhingram@montysbiscuit Weird way of saying "I made the most dribblingly asinine, specious conflation of two very different things, because I'm ether incapable of basic reasoning, or I assume my audience of frothing right whiners is made up of morons. Or both."
@cristiGavrila@saintjavelin Yeah but they're actually not, because they signed agreements at the fall of the USSR binding them to permanent neutrality, and NATO isn't neutral. Just like you or I are bound by contracts that we signed.
@kajakallas The front is that way, big lass -->
off you go. Wouldn't want anyone thinking you're the worst kind of cowardly armchair warlord, who is too frit to go and fight yourself. You'd be setting a good example, since you're more than happy for other people to die for you cause.
@Drago04041975@kajakallas That's not fair on birds. I currently have a rescue pigeon that I'm rehabilitating, and its a lot smarter than Kaja and most European leaders. It sure ain't taking kickbacks to whore for a war it too cowardly to go and fight itself, that's for sure. Pigeons 1 - 0 EU leaders.
@kajakallas Rather than pouring money to the most corrupt nazi addled nation in Europe, in order for them to give it to bankers, weapons manufacturers, and corrupt EU officials on the form of kickbacks, no doubt, I'd much rather my missus didn't have to wait 2 days in A&E without a bed.