@StarvingToLose@Gnosisinformant He might not. I don’t really either. I just know with Mike, he won’t “answer a matter before he hears it.” I think he’ll look into it diligently if he does weigh in.
@LogosAndLaw Do you not believe the Torah and Prophets both come from the same divine source?
Also, if you're just trolling me, I'm letting you know right now, I can't tell.
@LogosAndLaw I was literally going to do the same thing with your "Everyone should plagiarize each other. Why ought you be upset that someone took your ideas as their own? Why does it matter?" comment. You stole my idea!
@jawboneofsamson@BenOhrIC I disagree. There’s such thing as better promises. You thank God everyday that you’re not a Gentile, so I think you understand that :)
@CountBodkins@BenOhrIC And Christians are the ones who’ve translated the Hebrew Bible and spread its contents to the entire world. That’s hardly “throwing away the manual.”
@CountBodkins@BenOhrIC Ahh ok. That’s probably what some Christians think, but I don’t think that is what the New Testament teaches. I think, like the ark, some of the ceremonial aspects of the law are gone. But nowhere in the NT does it teach that you shouldn’t obey God because Messiah did it for you.
@CountBodkins@BenOhrIC Okay, so why does God discard the ark? Why is it forgotten and no longer visited?
I'm not disagreeing with your logic necessarily. I am trying to understand how your idea of the law's purpose being completed when Messiah comes is any different from Christian teaching.
@CountBodkins@BenOhrIC Sorry! I have a character limit so I come across short. The tabernacle is impermanent in the state it was originally given, and the ark won’t even come to mind or be visited anymore. I’m trying to understand how this doesn’t constitute a change in law, but the NT teaching does.
@CountBodkins@BenOhrIC To say that the Temple did not replace the tabernacle, but it is a perfected and permanent state of the same thing, is admitting that the first tabernacle was imperfect and impermanent, as was the ark (see Jeremiah 3:16) which is actually a very Christian line of reasoning.
@CountBodkins@BenOhrIC Very cool. Actually, I don’t think Paul is too far off from this.
To your point about replacement, I’d say that just as the Temple replaced the tabernacle, I don’t think replacements for parts of the Torah are necessarily wrong, so long as the replacements are ordained by God.