@goy_im_oh@Alyunan00 Thanks.
If they list separately in 1477 there must be a reason like 300-ish Genoese brought from Kefe/Caffa
May be they were Turkish speaking people converted to Christianity like
https://t.co/EbFLfox8Vn
or may be locals (Roman, Armenian, Celts, Normans) speaking Turkish
@RomeInTheEast They should accept for “aman” (sort of honorable surrender), see HBO’s Rome S1E1 Ceasar’s 2-day pillage of Alesia inflated the market, as twist of fate arrogant Constantiople were subject what she was applied in the past and don’t know even Rome has an “aman” to for the besieged
@goy_im_oh@Alyunan00 Yesterday I’ve encountered late Halil İnalcık’s reading of 1477 census of İstanbul, Karamanlı community listed there amongst Armenian church
8851 Turk families
3151 Roman Orthodox
1647 Jewish
267 Genoese
372 Armenian
384 Karamanlı under Armenian jurisdictio
14803 families in sum
@TheHumanSpoon@Civixplorer It doesn’t sound quite right as an answer to the “where are you from/coming?” but instead Stampol was in use as Armenian chronicler Abraham of Ankara recorded in 1450s.
@FranseviEfendi@n30n5223434 Anladığım “french”i deyim olarak kullanmış, “Fransız kalmak” diye birşey var, cümledeki öznenin konuşulan konuyu anlamadığı durumlar için kullanılır