Inside the Billionaire Backed Prediction Markets Hedge Fund. Run by a 24-Year-Old.
Camilo Saravia (@curiouscamilo), founder of BlueWalker Capital, a systematic prediction markets fund backed by Daniel Howard of Halo Capital.
"I don't want more capital. I'm extremely long our equity."
We cover:
- Why insider trading in prediction markets is terrible for liquidity and GOOD for society
- Prediction markets as cash-backed truth in a world of AI slop and disinformation
- Why he turned down the allocator question entirely, and the "Goldilocks zone" that makes a fund this size work
- His research team's actual mission statement: "collapse the entropy of the internet into signal"
- Trading Spotify streams and measuring how fast Mamdani viralizes vs Cuomo on TikTok
- Why beating earnings has almost no correlation with the stock going up, and why only testing reveals that
- Mention markets as literal next-word prediction, and how makers got sniped out
- Hiring missionaries with a mercenary work style, and why every hire takes a pay cut vs Citadel, Jane Street, Wintermute
- Daniel Howard's mandate: faster, more risk, more aggression. "They haven't backed me to print 7% APY"
- The abundance mindset, from a kid with immigrant parents sitting across from generational wealth
- A venture mindset applied to public equities: pulling the thread from free cash flow down to Glassdoor culture
- Why you never need to be binarily right: buy at 20, sell at 40, never wait for resolution
Highlights:
(00:00) Intro
(00:56) Taker vs maker, reflexive vs proactive: the strategy map
(03:08) What makes an event contract different from an equity
(04:53) Insider trading in prediction markets: bug or feature
(08:18) Cash-backed truth in a world of AI slop
(12:43) Where edge actually comes from
(14:19) The dataset: billions of records a day
(17:44) Building a money management business from an empty office
(21:34) Why asset management competes with software as a business model
(23:51) How to underwrite elite talent
(25:50) Missionaries vs mercenaries, and why the tension is the point
(30:54) Recruiting against Citadel money (and losing on salary every time)
(37:32) "We can't compromise speed": the Daniel Howard mandate
(44:45) The abundance mindset
(48:28) "Why should I invest?" / "I don't want more capital"
(50:12) Collapsing the entropy of the internet
(51:04) Spotify streams, TikTok virality, and mention markets
(53:17) The one data provider he'd long if he could
(55:49) There's a business behind everything
(01:00:07) How to find the real drivers in any market
(01:04:04) A venture mindset applied to public equities
(01:10:06) Prediction markets 101: where to actually start
(01:12:05) Why you don't need to be binarily right
(01:13:19) Final question: building personal edge against the models
i mean… it takes some skill to do a 30x. he had to roll his calls 10-15 times and switch to shorter dte and start juicing margin in june so there was likely some timing skill. no risk management or stop loss though. he’s is still 2-3x up YTD but most ppl trying to use this agressive roll stratgey usually lose it all
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The most crowded trade on the Street is starting to crack.
I've been tweeting pieces of this rotation for weeks.
Time to lay out the whole thing.
As always I remain nimble and able to pivot, however this feels like a specific point in time I wanted to talk about in depth.
From the big picture down to actionable trades, what I am currently looking at.
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agree. just trying to scare the b*tches. it was coopted and i feel going lower is healthy. BTC vol has died over the past year and that was its most desirable feature for many. not a store of value but a speculative asset that offered escape velocity for the ones that traded it well
@Cheshire_Cap why sell any? isn’t it just a bad precedent as the only bidder in town is now selling. don’t quite get the game theory of selling such a tiny amount and how does it inspire confidence? looking for counter arguments please
@Arthcola1@hackertrader what's your point? SBUX had great linear price action from GFC to 2016. after that it's a mess and wouldn't trade it. just moves on earnings
@nzz_07@AnotherDataP@hackertrader yes, just trade momentum burst from tight ranges. compression into the 10d or 20d is a plus. but avoid taking positions when price is > 50d sma + 5 * ADR%
blue is better. tight. even if you bought the breakout from the orange line you could have bought again at the same price with better r:r in the blue triangle a few days later. you want tight so you have an amazing r:r and can size up. hard to size up on break of orange line after 4 green days. where do you put your stop?
@AnotherDataP@hackertrader tight ranges can be defined as compression in volatility e.g. in the 90th percentile over past 20 days (you can use different measures of volatility like stdev or ADR%) and drying up in volume (lack of supply/sellers). here's a good example from SNDK