@no1likehime@ladynoirose Exactly, period. Tell them. He did bad things, but it was well explained, and of course not justifying , because they were still considered bad things (which was supposed to be taught by his father btw๐). But as long as he learned, he worked on how to respect boundaries.
@ladynoirose + did way worse things, just to defend Marinette? It's stupid. They're literally not different from the ones who hate Marinette and accuse her.
@ladynoirose When will they understand that defending a character doesn't need degrading another character? And Adrien did worse things than Marinette ๐? Hello?
Both did bad things, they're not angels, they're humans, and teenagers at the top of it. But make Adrien as a bad guy and say he+
@monikalcve That's called watching without understanding anything. They just want to see and believe what the show gives them. Andre is redeemed in the show?? Okay, he's a good guy. And you're right, it will be a HUGE waste of time. I even doubt if they're gonna understand.
@Trixxibug Sometimes, I wonder if some of Miraculous fans know anything about friendship (like, do they have any friends? Do they ever call each other out for their own good? Do they even argue like every other friendship in the world?), because their definition of friendship is so weird.
@onlythebravvee@whiskersnoirr I'm sick of them already. You don't have to justify or show that you don't hate Marinette to prove your point. Because that's the truth, but some people think that saying anything that includes Marinette's name is a hating statement towards her.
@phanthomsenery@whiskersnoirr + what Adrien is going through. But yeah, it's hard for me, actually, to believe that the show will take a decision like showing more about Adrien's pov about this lie. At least, I'm waiting for a decent reaction when he finds out (a reaction that really says how affected he is).
@phanthomsenery@whiskersnoirr Now that the audience saw Marinette's side and suffering from the lie, they feel bad for her, explain her, and even some are justifying her. But believe me, if the show decided to include Adrien's side as well (who is the literal victim), you would see how they would really feel+
@whiskersnoirr Marinette is the center of the show, and having high expectations about the show working on Adrien more will just lead to a big disappointment. I mean, even the lie plotline was about showing Marinette's struggles, suffering and guilt, that's how the show works, unfortunately.
@phanthomsenery@whiskersnoirr Exactly, you're right, he does DESERVE way better writers. And about Marinette, yes, it's real, the whole show is about her and her perspective, it's not hating statement, it's stating facts. And some fans really need to understand that admitting this doesn't mean hating her.
@seensorrow@monikalcve When it comes to Chloe, they forget that this is manipulation, they forget that she is a teenager too, they forget a lot of things that they use to justify and explain other characters. Chloe did a LOT of bad things, but they should stop being hypocrite in defending characters.
@BenOver12345@monikalcve I'll never take this "she's irredeemable" thing, even if the creator and writer himself said it. There is nothing called "irredeemable", people refuse to change, they refuse to be in the good side, but using th word "irredeemable"?? it's wild.
@KeadyGamez@monikalcve Yeah, actually the show has shown (so far) Marinette's perspective in this lie plotline, and having the other side (Adrien) is important to see how it affects both sides. But I'm low-key thinking that's not gonna happen, or at least, I'm not having high+
@monikalcve Unfortunately, some people think that loving a character means justifying every act they do, not calling them out, and assuming that they can't do anything wrong.
@Zotelei_ No, you don't have to be sorry. It's a valid thing to do. What she did is still bad and terrible (and I don't really like her either). But I still can't stand the "she's irredeemable" thing. Saying that, and acting as if some episodes of the show didn't exist, is diabolical.