@NoJusticeMTG It's pretty telling that only 10% of Starmer voters would say it's not a genocide. Like say what you want about how important Israel/Palestine is to voters but being out of step with 67-90% of your own supporters is pretty wild.
@Dr_Marxist_27@forces_at_work Even then I mean the French revolution was incomplete and that's ok, I don't think the socialist revolutions were a bad thing but I think we need to see where they were limited and how we could promote a more radical freedom to overcome capitalism more completely
@Dr_Marxist_27@forces_at_work I mean it depends, if you count moving to a better place in the liberal order as a victory then yeah, I'm not against that but as far as going onwards towards a new world order the French revolution was more successful for sure
@forces_at_work The thing about MLs is that their program has failed, so to hang onto it they have to fall back on the inevitability of change to justify doing the same thing again, and to be fair conditions do change but they fail to see the ways that their revolution undermined itself.
@forces_at_work It worked for Marx because he could posit a particular way capitalism would undermine itself over time, or maybe multiple different ways which marxists like to argue about. And even if you accept that I don't know how widely applicable it is as a methodology.
@forces_at_work It does kind of boil down to "things change", which doesn't mean a lot by itself because the change could be like the heat death of the universe, so it depends whether capitalism is undermining it's own conditions but I don't know if you need the philosophy.
@martinrw The question is if they don't choose which laws to enforce, who is choosing? Because by the met deputy chief's admission, this is being prioritised over other laws. Is it the police chief? The home secretary? Is it formal instruction or implied? Media should be asking this