@TheFive@greggutfeld Comparing AI to a kitchen appliance is indicative that his understanding of AI is shallow. He watched one podcast with Marc andreason and suddenly hes proselytizing that AI is just a tool that can’t do anything unless a human tells it to. Critical thinking 101
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@GerritWGong@diplocourier These are good points but I think the conversation has shifted to the bigger danger AI poses. There’s a lot of talk lately that warnings are unwarranted and just doomerism, this video explains succinctly why I feel that’s wrong.
https://t.co/1AmrC6jBAV
@FreedomRanger@BillOReilly A philosophy professor recently received 8 emails from different accounts that ended up being AI bots inquiring if he thought they were conscious according to his theory he wrote about on the topic. Some are clearly beyond human control
What are your thoughts on Elon’s take? You trust his opinion on most things, why not this? Why do you think Marc Andreason is right? By you comparing AI to a kitchen appliance is not a smart take. Yes, could be right on some of what you say but also talk about the legitimate concerns that have been expressed for years, not just recently
Greg, listen to more than Marc Abdreason on this topic. The fact that you compared AI on your late night show to an appliance like a blender that cannot hurt us is the dumbest thing that has left your lips.. yes, there could be a play to box out competition or limit liability but can’t you see the potential dangers with it’s recursive self improvement. Even if it didn’t act on its own, it can be used to shut down grids, banks, etc. C’mon Gregory!!!
Could be.
But one of the triggers of discussion is another factor: AI is quickly moving toward capability threshold.
Once that capability is reached, along with Recursive Self Improvement (RSI), the idea that we can then develop efforts to prevent loss of control becomes futile.
Unlike climate change or Y2K, this is not hyperbole or theoretical; it's the defined path AI takes.
Since we've reached a critical juncture, and the labs know it, that's partly what's generated wider public conversation.
But this moment has been discussed and foretold for years.
What does feel a bit propagandized (to me) is the false notion that there are only two choices:
Slow down or regulate AI and data centers-- and "lose to China."
or
Do little to nothing.. watch and wait.
There is some work that could be done without giving up our advantage.
President Trump has indicated he is doing some of this work, such as restricting shipment of critical chips to China. But there's no downside to treating this like an emergency while we have a relatively short window to help steer the course better.
There *is* a huge downside to assuming this is all conspiracy theory or the work of China-- and being wrong.
https://t.co/e2d3llu3w9
@SharylAttkisson 100% agree with this assessment. I feel like I’m in the twilight zone lately with so many people I thought were rational thinkers comparing AI to an appliance and it’s all a conspiracy or calling for complete shut down of AI. Folks, put your critical thinking hats on, please!
@MattWalshBlog Thank you for saying this, sums up my thoughts exactly. I get so frustrated with people I respect comparing it to an appliance “your blender just isn’t going to sneak up and kill you, it has to be used by a person to kill you, just like AI” @greggutfeld . c’mon Greg
As I've said, I think there's probably some truth to the idea that AI companies may be incentivized to inflate the dangers of their product for financial and strategic reasons. However, when all of the major players in an industry are telling us, flat out, that the thing they're building could be very dangerous, it seems ridiculous to write their warnings off completely. If a guy built a weird contraption, handed it to me, and said, "Careful, it might kill you," I'm going to tend to take his warning seriously. It might be a hoax, sure, but if I know considerably less about the contraption than the guy who built it, I'm probably not going to just assume it's a hoax.
I'm not aware of any example in history where almost everyone INSIDE a particular industry is united in saying that their own product might be catastrophic for mankind. The climate alarmists have said that about the fossil fuel industry, for example, but the climate alarmists are not inside the industry. Notably, the fossil fuel industry itself has generally disagreed with their assessments. That's why the climate alarmism comparisons here just don't hold water. It's a totally different situation.
So, while we should be cautious about taking anything at face value, I find the firm "there's nothing to worry about" claims to be pretty ridiculous. This is an extremely powerful and rapidly evolving technology. Any powerful technology carries risk. If the people building this technology say the risk is high, again it seems foolish to blithely assume that all of them are conspiring to simply lie about the dangers of their own product.
Another read on the situation -- one that allows you to doubt the benevolence of these people (as I most certainly do), while not necessarily discounting all of the hazards of the thing they're building -- is that they pushed full speed ahead on this technology, blew right past the warning signs, and now they're seeing things on their end that legitimately scare them, and the PR blitz in the media right now is a classic case of corporate CYA. When the shit hits the fan, they can say, "We tried to stop it." Even though they actually could have stopped it, but didn't, when they had the chance. That seems like a plausible scenario, too.
@TheChiefNerd Why is @JensenHuang saying the opposite of the big AI labs? If the doomsday scenarios are really just a market manipulation or because they are financially in trouble, wouldn’t Jensen huang be playing a long? Especially since they are so financial entangled?
@RR_Hartley@michaelbd AI is a massive web of virtual "neurons" You do not write AI line-by-line; you "grow" or train it by feeding it millions of examples so it can find its own hidden patterns. It calculates the most likely next word, pixel, or decision based on math, not human logic.
@sbkaufman Ideally, but when all the leaders of AI have invested in doomsday bunkers in remote places…kinda says a lot in what they actually believe, that there is a high enough chance to warrant that
@michaelshermer If you think people are overreacting to the news that AI could soon end humanity, maybe we should be asking why the tech billionaires developing these AIs — like Sam Altman, Mark Zuckerberg, Peter Theil, and Elon Musk, have been building and buying doomsday bunkers.
@JunkScience If you think people are overreacting to the news that AI could soon end humanity, maybe we should be asking why the tech billionaires developing these AIs — like Sam Altman, Mark Zuckerberg, Peter Theil, and Elon Musk, have been building and buying doomsday bunkers.