@punished_bobda@gaitanalyst Thanks.
Actually no, I don't know what you mean.
I confess that I'm pretty ignorant about the LDS faith beyond the basics (which is one of the reasons that I typically don't engage w/LDS people on here).
@punished_bobda@gaitanalyst Because I used to believe various misconceptions about the Catholic Church, and it's been an amazing experience to learn that I was wrong.
I'm not attacking you. I want you (& everyone) to experience the incredible joy and life that the Truth gives us.
@punished_bobda@gaitanalyst "...I do care, very greatly, about living and following the Jesus Christ I read about in the New Testament..."
Then you should join the Church He started - the Catholic Church. We would love to have you.
@mojito_flow@asparagoid 1) It depends if her conversion was sincere or just to lock down a husband
2) If she lied/hid her sexual past from her husband it could be grounds for annulment (if they're Catholic)
3) It's nasty. Healthy men want a new woman, not a used one.
Finally:
the thing about calling DEI 'economic genocide' is that it undersells it
yes, young White men were systematically excluded from careers during their peak marriage years, but that's just first-order effects.
second-order: marriage market collapse. women date across and up. men without careers become invisible to the women who would have married them and disappear. the "eligible bachelor" pool shrinks.
third-order: fertility crisis. fewer marriages, fewer children. but it's worse than just men not marrying or having families. the women who "won" the DEI lottery got careers instead of families, delayed fertility until it was too late. DEI attacked family formation from both sides, excluded men from provider roles AND diverted women from their fertility window. everyone lost.
fourth-order: psychological. young men couldn't even name what was happening to them. the same institutions that excluded them told them they were "privileged", that complaining was proof of weakness. so they internalized failure as personal inadequacy rather than systemic rigging, retreated into depression, video games, porn. the symptoms we then pathologized as "male failure". the system broke them (on purpose) and blamed them for being broken.
fifth-order: institutional trust gone. once you know positions are filled by demographics rather than competence, every credential becomes suspect (if not a priori worthless). is your doctor qualified or a diversity hire? your pilot? your engineer? you can't prove any individual is incompetent, but you can't trust any individual is competent either. medicine skepticism, academic failure, media skepticism, none of this emerged organically. it was manufactured by the DEI hire you can't be sure is qualified to treat you.
sixth-order: reality became unspeakable. noticing any of this was a fireable offense. pointing out the obvious got you called a bigot, deplatformed or fired. pure totalitarian censorship and the problem couldn't even be acknowledged (until now, finally)
men knew they were being cheated but couldn't say it. women sensed something was wrong with the men but couldn't identify it. relationships poisoned by a dynamic neither party could name.
seventh-order: the feedback loop. fewer eligible men means more women competing for a shrinking pool, more women losing the marriage market, more resentment, more "men are trash", more support for DEI, fewer eligible men and the system accelerates itself.
and the worst part is that DEI was just the economic arm. the same people and institutions pushed the complete package
"toxic masculinity" to pathologize male identity
"the future is female" as explicit zero-sum framing delusion
"believe all women" to weaponize trust against men
"men are trash" to normalize open contempt
a coordinated ideological assault on family formation.
and it even had a business model. HR departments exploded (millions of jobs invented to administer the regime). DEI consultants became a multi-billion dollar industry. politicians got voting blocs dependent on racial grievance. established boomers kept their positions while their competition was eliminated.
the architects knew what they were doing
you don't accidentally build a system that specifically targets men during peak marriage years, tells them they deserve it, makes it unspeakable to complain, attacks their identity as toxic, promotes women into career tracks that burn their fertility, then acts confused when society collapses
if you wanted to suppress the fertility of a specific demographic, engineer the breakdown of trust between the sexes, and make it illegal to notice, the playbook would look exactly like this.
DEI should be held responsible for the fertility crisis, the marriage collapse, the epidemic of male depression and suicide, the destruction of institutional trust, the atomization of society, and the manufactured war between men and women
but DEI was the weapon
the people who designed it, funded it, made it mandatory, enforced it through HR, fired anyone who resisted, called all opposition hate and racism, built careers and industries on its maintenance, they knew. and they're the ones who should be remembered as the architects of one of the worst crimes against humanity
@aander1987@KarenLorre@CrisAlvaradoMD Lol the pharma industry is easily one of the most corrupt industries in the world.
There's often billions in potential profit on the line. They don't give a shit about the truth when that much profit is involved.
@KarenLorre It turns out that one must have a commitment to truth above all other considerations in order to do proper science.
It's almost like the Catholics were right or something.
@IterIntellectus@GarrettPetersen Catholicism caused the west’s success and without it all is lost.
Liberalism emerged in the past few centuries and its results have been mostly disastrous for Christendom/Western Civilization.
@ChudThomist 💯 There are modernists & libs in the Church who don't believe in Hell, demons, etc.
They'll say that suffering is all psychological rather than spiritual.
It's nonsense. Remember, demons want people to believe they're not real.
https://t.co/lLVrba6Tqy
Cardinal Robert McElroy’s firing of the faithful priest, exorcist Msgr. Stephen Rossetti—for his opposition to the ET UFO Deception—is an outrageous scandal.
Here you’ll find McElroy’s claims refuted.
But here I also ponder: is there more—much more—to this than meets the eye?
@DSDOConnor I had this moral instinct long before becoming Catholic.
I've also suffered a horrific injustice and have been disgusted by the indifference from people close to me.
Most people are morally retarded these days. We SHOULD get angry at injustice.
@melancoptimist The primary reason one should convert is that Catholicism is true.
But I'm also sympathetic to the Trads who are sick of our disgusting anti-Christ culture as well.
@melancoptimist You can't empathize with the desire for a "based" religion in an era of rampant degeneracy, "gay marriage", "trans" mutilation of innocent children, man-hating feminism, DEI, mass abortion, etc.?
Young White men have been screwed and are justifiably angry.
@SweetSavvySavio@Catholic_bro@ethan_ruffing The difference is that there's not a massive political movement backed by powerful governments and corporations dedicated to celebrating our sin.
@SmileyElmore@frogNscorpion "I went to mass for about 6 months and was bombarded by anti-racism homilies repeatly - just disgusting."
Sure. When and where was this?