I have sent a complaint to consumer protection agency in Estonia notifying of illegal, immoral behaviour of @teslaeurope and @tesla. It's a theft, not other word for it. @elonmusk as a protector of truth, I wonder what is his opinion on remotely disabling paid for functionality.
I hope to support the work of MEP René Repasi (@repasi) on the Right to Repair Directive and the Right to Repair Europe coalition (@R2REurope), as well as broader consumer protection efforts by BEUC (@BEUC)."
Tesla's remote revocation of paid features exemplifies the exact problems highlighted for years by right-to-repair advocates like Louis Rossmann (@rossmannsupply), who has publicly called out manufacturer overreach in vehicles and electronics.
Also worth calling out @restartproject and @iFixit
https://t.co/RQQZTAuZ9p
@brandenflasch The bulky part is the stupid design of separated AC and DC sides. Plugging that plug is something, thick cable or not. NACS like design would be superior.
@brandenflasch NACS is a standard and thanks god, it’s much superior.
CCS2 is a standard in EU because we need two extra cables (3 phase power). Still they could have reused the DC cables and add extra wires for missing phases like NACS did.
Inefficient design is what you get with CCS2
@TomSerg@vukisz@Tesla@teslaeurope@elonmusk Estonia. Also got it and no FSD yet, Grok I had in my Model S though which was weird that it got it. Not in Y. This makes no sense lol.
Good knowing that paying 8000€ months ago would give me access once it’s approved in my country right? Right???? 😅
We’re all super excited to finally have FSD Supervised in Europe! 👍
We applaud the progress: Netherlands, Lithuania, Estonia… more and more countries are finally approving it.
Great news!
But the big question on everyone’s mind: what about the update?
Update 2026.3.6 (FSD 14.2.2.5) is supposed to deliver it… yet the rollout is way too slow!
Dozens (hundreds?) of owners in already-approved countries are still waiting impatiently.
Is Tesla finally going to push a wide rollout that integrates FSD for everyone, geolocated and activated only in authorized countries?
Because honestly, this is getting embarrassing.
Real example: my brother bought a brand-new Model Y Performance two months ago and paid full price for the FSD pack. He’s in an officially approved country… and still nothing. Zero update.
@tesla@teslaeurope : it’s time to step up. European customers paid for this too.
We’re waiting for a real answer and especially a fast, proper deployment….
No they do not do that unless they take responsibility for FSD crashes.
Currently they take zero responsibility, so they should not be policing the owners how they operate their own cars. If you use this and crash, it's not tesla fault, so why would they need to spend time checking this.
Tesla needs to come up with a solution to prevent this driver-monitoring camera hack. Supervised FSD should remain genuinely supervised, at least for the time being. @Tesla_AI
@NotATeslaApp "Shipped to customers" and EE is marked? No, according to https://t.co/3gZwCDBH5W we have >2000 teslas here, and only one single guy has access to FSD...
If one car out of 2000 is "shipped" then Tesla delivering cars autonomously from factory to the client has been shipped...
@ZacksJerryRig@whatsinside@Tesla Correct! I would love to hear from my other commenters why is hack enabling FSD in non supported region somehow making Tesla liable? They never were and not are liable for FSD crashing into tree… yet I keep hearing they somehow are only if it’s non approved FSD 🤣?
You bypass restrictions anytime you remove DPS filter. Not legal? Yes. Should car manufacturers then remotely disable your cruise control that you paid for? Hell no
TOS are not the law. I don’t care for TOS.
Btw. You owe me 100€ if you care for TOS so much (engaging with me means you accepted TOS of conversing with me which is paid 100€ per comment). Does it sound fine to you? I don’t think so lol 😂
Tesla shills:
- FSD is so good, it can drive anywhere, even on unknown roads
- Ok, so it's fine I enabled in in EU?
- No, it's U.N.S.A.F.E!!!!!!! Tesla had to ban you, they would be liable!
- Wait, so they are liable in US?
- Nah, of course not.
- Ok, now EU approved it? Still kills unsafe?
- No, now by the power of pen signature it became fully safe!
I can bet the Tesla shills will say it’s legal to do so because it was in TOS probably somewhere that Tesla can change wording of legal documents years later lmao
This is a wild one. Tesla has retroactively modified official Full Self-Driving contracts with customers to add 'Supervised'.
Tesla used to call FSD 'Full Self-Driving Capability', and the contract implied that it would eventually lead to full unsupervised autonomy.
Only in 2024 did Tesla add the word 'Supervised' to the official FSD package name and changed the language to remove the implication of delivering unsupervised autonomy.
Now, owners of Tesla HW3 cars with FSD who purchased FSD before the change report that Tesla retroactively updated their FSD contracts to add 'Supervised' and made them unavailable to download.
I purchased via third party and my invoice says “FSD” but it’s from 3rd party. In Estonia that was only way to get lease on a new Tesla. FirstEV bought the car and then resold as lease to the bank. I have some website screenshot though what was offered on website when ordering the car I think
It’s hypothetical. You can use Tesla without their app. If I wouldn’t add it to the app? Also while adding to the app I am not being asked about any TOS. Car just appears in your account once previous owner transfers. How is that TOS approval? I can send you ownership to my car and force you this way to sign TOS without your will. Nah. That’s not how contracts work.
It’s like me saying: if you reply to me or engage with conversation with me you accept to pay me 1000€. Do you prefer PayPal or Revolut to send me the cash?
I don’t use superchargers. Estonia never had one. Just recently they added few but on my road from Saaremaa to Poland I always use IONITY. Much better location (along main roads so I don’t waste time to go extra 10mins to get to SUC).
So then, where is this magical TOS offered? I did a test. I moved car to someone else’s account and got it back later. Never have I been asked to agree to this magical non existing TOS
After talking with @tesla service, I had got an admission, that the actions towards my car is fully retaliatory:
- The mention the FSD ban and lack of OTA for my car is safety reason
- They say it's because I installed the device
- Device has been removed....
- When requested restoring the functionality because the device has been removed they said they won't restore it because "it cannot be guaranteed that the device will not be reconnected."
- Yet, other cars with same hardware in same region operate FSD fully even though "it cannot be guaranteed that the device will not be reconnected"
I guess they should put @elonmusk in jail for rape since it cannot be guaranteed he would not rape anyone?
I will definitely be following up with consumer protection office about this whole fiasco. I understand disabling things for safety reasons, but keeping it disabled is just a maliciousness behaviour. If you can discover if device has been installed, then unlock me after it's removed. If you think it's not safe because it can be reinstalled, then lock all the cars and basically disable all FSD in EU since all the cars have the possibility to install that device as well.
You still don’t get that the problem is not Tesla banning paid for stuff without refunds, but the idea that it’s not their job to police people.
We don’t carry a gun because the outcome is other people with guns take us to jail. I know some people that keep gun (illegal) at house, because risk is smaller.
We overspeed if police doesn’t see it and take that risk. We used FSD and took that risk. The police could catch us using it and issue a fine.
It’s not Tesla’s job to decide if using FSD in EU was breaking law or not. They are not the police, they are not the courts, they are not the law
That's literally my car. HW4, has FSD hardware, has FSD purchased for 8000EUR, has FSD legal in my country, yet you took it away/banned it with no refunds...
@basedbrahmann@albero21M I am showing that many many rules are just idiotic and law doesn't keep up, so the law itself it's not a good moral compass and definition of safety.
FSD is so safe, the law make everyone less safe. You keep arguing that because law did not approve it it's morally bad. Nope