@dibbickwilly@ApexSeeker_ Firebombing was far from their only option though. If they thought the Japanese wouldn't surrender, why think they would surrender after the nukes? That was not guaranteed. And what would've happened if they didn't?
@Bradken13@jxzdmzw The consensus is that democracy is flawed, but the best option we have. Free speech is different. That's grounded in the belief that we can only progress socially if we can actually discuss problems freely without fearing punishment. Does the Chinese system address these issues?
@Bradken13@jxzdmzw Modern Western democracies are primarily meant to address the problems with Western monarchies, and create a self-regulating political system that could maintain relative stability over centuries, and ensure that bad leaders are replaced and do minimal harm.
@Bradken13@jxzdmzw But why do you see it as superficial and false? Western democracy has a 2500 year history. What could the average Chinese citizen understand that the countless Western political philosophers that helped develop and challenged this system didn't?
@afeihua They were actively engaging in a proxy war in Korea when the embargo started. The natural disasters and embargo is nowhere near enough to explain the scale of the famine. Bad leadership is still clearly the biggest factor.
@dear_mr_f You're talking about something that happened more than 60 years ago. Blockades that started when the US and China were actively engaging in a proxy war in Korea. These modern day politicans had no say in that. And don't think that all Western people think the same.
@JiaweiShen2568 The West doesn't have the state driven propaganda that China, Russia and many other authoritarian regimes have. At least not to anywhere near the same extent. The closest you'll find is probably the Red Scare in the US. But it's still much less common.