@PamphletsY The irony that the same group that tells you "Ukraine belonged to Russia in 1950, so it still does" has a very, very different view on land ownership in a certain, controversial Middle Eastern country that was formed around 2 years earlier isn't lost on me.
@JDVance You're lying again. It's genuinely pathetic how you lack the courage to stand by your words and are now desperately trying to backpedal; only the U.K. and France had made serious proposals to commit troops in the numbers (20k) that you're referring to.
@stuartshakesby@medialens If we're making comparisons: Russia is 2003 Era US and UK in this instance: invading a sovereign nation on spurious security pretexts (swap WMDs with US bio-labs and UKR "Nazi" superweapons) with the goal of replacing a government you don't like with a client/puppet.
@stuartshakesby@medialens I haven't: if it's there, it doesn't change the price of fish. It doesn't make the Iraq war comparison any more valid.
We INVADED Iraq, whereas the Ukrainians have INVITED foreign troops. One is a violation of national sovereignty, the other is meant to insure it.
@medialens And I have a hard time taking the arguments of that particular corner of the party in good faith - I remember the fairly laughable things the Stop The War coalition came out with immediately after the invasion.
@medialens I mean, I have my problems with the current labour leadership, but sending UK forces into an allied country to guarantee its security post ceasefire is pretty far from invading a sovereign nation under false pretenses to seize its resources a la Iraq
Again, I don’t really get why it’s portrayed as up to Ukraine to stop this and not Putin who can leave at any time and never should have invaded in the first place.
@hirotonfa The Welsh? Short, tetchy, hairy, like a drink, live in the mountains, history of mining, ancient language that no one else bothers to learn?
@yorksoriginal Mussolini's War by John Gooch is a pretty interesting read, starts in 1935, so it captures some of the inter-war period (Abyssinia etc.).
The Stop The War Coalition left spent a decade arguing in favour of appeasing fascist Russia, even at the expense of a million dead in Syria and Ukraine, and the easiest way to understand their position today is that nothing has changed.
@HuddlestonNigel@Conservatives Make Britain an impoverished, post-industrial, service economy orientated, zero hours contract reliant mess again.
You had 14 years to make this country great again. By almost every conceivable metric, from social security to national security, you failed.