@katiephillips68@tofuafficionado Beneficial for survival means it keeps you alive and healthy, you cannot function properly without it, they don’t die or get unhealthy if they don’t force mate, they only have fewer babies. Beneficial for survival is a health necessity and rape isn’t beneficial for survival
@katiephillips68@tofuafficionado Yes you do. B12 you cannot get from plants. We make our own creatine, carnosine, taurine and more but without eating meat we aren’t getting enough of this therefore becoming unhealthy. Why do we need to force ourself to become unhealthy when we can just eat animals
@katiephillips68@tofuafficionado And you’re trying to twist my words lmao I never said everything that is natural is good I said eating meat is natural, seen through other animals, It should be continued as it has always benefitted our health, without it we would be unhealthy.
@katiephillips68@tofuafficionado Intensive farming is mass produced suffering. it’s choosing to make things worse than things need to be. Nature having suffering doesn’t justify humans creating extra suffering that we could easily avoid, and I don’t mean just killing them I mean torture.
@katiephillips68@tofuafficionado No it’s not rape is not a survival need, it’s a reproductive strategy so species can pass on their genes. Animals won’t die if they don’t force mate, they just have fewer babies. One is an ‘advantage’ and one is death. We NEED to eat meat like how animals eat meat for health
@katiephillips68@tofuafficionado Nature has both survival needs and harmful instincts. Eating is natural and beneficial for survival and rape is not beneficial for survival, it’s just something that happens and should be prevented, rather than killing and eating that helps them and us get the nutrients we need
@katiephillips68@tofuafficionado I meant unnecessary suffering. It’s not nature to put animals in intensive farming and brutally kill them I think it was obvious putting animals in factories is not natural at all
@strongdump@BanHRTNow_@OrangeSmileCat 18 year old is an adult and a 16 year old is a child that makes it obvious why people will be uncomfortable when you could just date another adult, no matter the gender
@averyssw This is generally true but just because someone eats enough grains doesn’t mean it’s healthy for them because they miss out on essential nutrients. Surviving with the food you’re forced to eat doesn’t mean you’re thriving, I bet those people would be happy to eat meat any day.
@averyssw And due to these lack of nutrients, people buy supplements and this goes back to my argument because people in poorer countries don’t have access or money to these supplements, therefore it is a privileged take.
@averyssw No you cannot. B12 is one nutrient you cannot get from plants which is needed to be healthy. Without meat, you body has low levels of creatine, taurine, carnosine(not in plant food), omega-3. There’s probably more but these are the most deficiencies vegans have. Iron too though.