Awesome that we are gaslighting people into thinking they're crazy for caring about something that's incredibly damaging. It's not "perfomative" or psychotic to have a firm stance against ai. People are right to be upset about being lied to about ai use in a popular game and code
@furfag_real I kinda agree, but I think people are unironically too stupid to understand that nuance. I think its better if people respect coding as something that shouldn't be handed off to ai (i.e. "art") rather than something that has no value beyond just a means to and end.
@Jorge_SunSpirit I think it ultimately comes down to artistic people tend to not be interested or knowledgeable about anything considerd "scientific." So it's easy for them to view code as something to only be outsourced to someone else or ai
Drawing the line on what is "tedious" and what isn't will inevitably lead to people thinking generating a whole game is fine because they find the whole process "tedious"
@7Negative_Creep 2 has an incredibly slow prologue and first act, even for MGS standards, which turns a lot of people off from the get go. And like everyone else is replying the gameplay and lvl design is greatly improved in 3. I'm surprised though, because ppl talk more about 2 nowadays
House House isn’t the first studio to hide their AI use and they won’t be the last -
But the fact that they hid it at all means they know it’s bad & that they shouldn’t use it, just in case that wasn’t obvious.
I want to expound more on LLM and genAI disclosure bec even the more nuanced takes say "should it even be disclosed if it's so minimal?"
The answer is Yes, bec people should be given the choice and agency to choose to support something no matter how small its use is. 🧵
@luckycharmslolp@force__captain "IGF judges said its ok so it must be ok". Please tell me where I said anything about the opinions of the jurors or judges when it comes to this being about transparency. I'm not a puritan but I don't like being fed shit without being told so
@luckycharmslolp@force__captain You are so unbelievably dense. There wouldn't be all of this outrage if it wasn't for the fact they hid their use of ai until months after the game's release. Everyone is free to have their own line in the sand with ai use, stop calling everyone else's "performative"