@jean_bexon Il me semble qu’au pénal toutes les preuves sont recevables yc celles obtenues par des moyens illégaux ?
Vous avez le jugement qui dirait autrement ?
@ElieTenenbaum@GC080417@ulrichspeck On parle toujours du financement comme quoi 🇩🇪 financerait, mais concretement quelle etait la repartition du financement entre les 3 pays ?
La fin du scaf n’est pas une solution, mais plier face aux allemandes (doigt main bras epaule) non plus. Que perd on reellement ?
@MaximoMustero@LPahulycz@nicholadrummond Yes yes but unfortunately no one share your Pov about this « more capable more performant » aircraf.
Exports are low. First buyers still has small fleets, no expansion program, there are no pending order, the factories are being dismantle.
@MaximoMustero@LPahulycz@nicholadrummond Correct about financial issue.
Uncorrect about airbus DS capacity.
We need an efficient aircraft fit for war, and we will get it. Through 🇪🇺 cooperation if possible, or by selling tech abroad if needed.
Can’t make BS like typhoon A400M eurodrone all the time because of 🇩🇪 flaws
@LPahulycz@nicholadrummond Ca serait bien d’apprendre a la fermer.
Ce qu’on a pu faire (non sans difficulté) avec la gen4 ne sera pas reproductible.
Oui les allemands sont de mauvais partenaires, avec une vision purement industrielle/business, mais ca ne justifie pas de venir jeter de l’huile sur le feu.
@ecciuh@mickthedevo@SoIdierSpy@TheEuropeansHQ Yes you are a concerned european, afraid of Chinese technology advancement and yet spreading chinese (gross) propaganda against an european country.
Do you sense something wrong in that or are you utterly stupid ?
@MAStrackZi Leadership was only asked on the NGF pillar, with a workshare of 51%. Based on the know-how of dassault
On all the other pillars, 🇫🇷 was in rear position (except co-entreprise for the engine).
Blame 🇫🇷 if you want, but 🇪🇺 partner will be cautious with future 🇩🇪 « cooperation »
@The__Bluey@Valrian20892809@RadarFennec Eurofighter is « balanced in workload » if you want, but it’s an inefficient program, very costly with poor delivery.
And you illustrate the problem, german think industry, money and workload, when we need a fighter fit for war.
@The__Bluey@Valrian20892809@RadarFennec 80% workshare is an hoax, longtime debunked… it was 51%, as agreed at the beginning.
Dassault later demand was about choosing some key subcontractor, best athlete focus.
When 🇪🇸 entered, airbus tried to introduce others companies on NGF and was using 2/3 vote as leverage
@ecciuh@mickthedevo@SoIdierSpy@TheEuropeansHQ 1/ chinese propaganda. India contract for 114 new fighters should ring a bell somewhere in your head.
2/ why eurofighter isn’t a success ?
@The__Bluey@Valrian20892809@RadarFennec The workshare agreed at the beginning has been reshaped heavely with 🇪🇸 entrance.
Then airbus demanded co leadership on the NGF, whereas it was specifically said Dassault would be leader on it, while airbus was leader on other parts
The same thing happened with the eurofighter
@anatolium Oui on a juste des elections tous les 5ans.
C’est juste que brancognole a compris qu’il n’avait aucun avenir par les elections, donc il denigre.
@MathieuL1 C’est au programme en fait, meme si ca ne peut pas etre approfondi. Le programme est deja trop lourd pour etre bouclé
J’ai toujours regretté ces lacunes pendant mes etudes, mais soyons honnete : les gens ne sont pas interessés. S’ils apprennent, ils ne retiennent pas et oublient