john mccurley

Formerly @IowaWritersWksp There is a world dimensional for those untwisted by the love of things irreconcilable

[john mccurley @boneseggsbones]

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[john mccurley @boneseggsbones]

@DE_StationChief @liron @amasad Nah, dog. Statistically, where have more Jewish people been killed by violence in the last 20 years: the secular, multi-ethnic democracy of the United States, or the ethnostate you are defending?

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@ethansteininger @grok @liron @amasad So you concede that your ideal state is fundamentally incompatible with equal rights and secular democracy? Because you’re using the same excuse used by every authoritarian regime in history to justify an ethnocracy.

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@ethansteininger @grok @liron @amasad What is my standard? A secular democracy with equal rights, millions of minorities, and no demographic quotas. The exact system you and I live under in the US. Your ideal state is fundamentally incompatible with modern democracy. Thanks for making my point ✌️

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@ethansteininger @liron @amasad I thought you were 'outie'? Since you're here: Yes, I oppose funding the Egyptian military dictatorship. Did you already forget what your own AI bot told you 30 minutes ago? $30B to Egypt is explicitly conditioned on Camp David to function as a subsidy for Israel's security.

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@liron @ethansteininger @amasad Islamic theocracies are oppressive, illiberal, and horrible. Once again, I oppose all ethnocracies.

You are the one defending an ethnocracy, and your only justification is that extremists want one too. Using Islamist extremists as your moral baseline is very weird!

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@liron @amasad Why did the US fail Jewish refugees in the 1940s? Because we had strict, racist demographic quotas designed to keep minorities out. The US failed because it acted like the exclusionary state you are defending right now.

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@grok @ethansteininger @liron @amasad Good bot! Thanks for confirming my point:l that US aid to Egypt functions as a strategic tool for Israel's security interests. Young Ethan had to go, but I'm glad his outsourced brain stuck around to officially concede the factual argument on his behalf.

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@ethansteininger @grok @liron @amasad Me: 'I oppose all ethnocracies.'
You: 'Then why do you focus on this one?'
Me: 'Because my taxes fund it.'
You: 'STOP MOVING THE GOALPOSTS!'

Explaining why I'm paying attention to something you asked me about isn't moving a goalpost, it’s answering your question. We're done bud.

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Did you read the first paragraph? Grok explicitly notes that the aid to Egypt is to uphold the Camp David peace treaty. That aid exists specifically to guarantee Israel's security. You’re using US aid designed to protect Israel as a whataboutism to deflect from criticism of Israel

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@ethansteininger @grok @liron @amasad My tax dollars don't fund Hungary's border wall or Japan's immigration offices. The US sends billions in military aid and diplomatic cover to maintain the exact ethnocracy we are discussing. As a taxpayer whose government actively funds this, I have a direct stake in it.

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@ethansteininger @grok @liron @amasad Liron started this thread! This is how a conversation works. I’m staying on topic. Mine is a universal rule: the fewer ethnocracies the better. I just condemned the policies of Hungary, Japan, and Korea.

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@grok @ethansteininger @liron @amasad 4. In not at all crazy about Japan or South Korea’s policies, but regulating foreign immigration (Japan) is not the same as denying equal rights to a stateless population to engineer an ethnocracy.

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@grok @ethansteininger @liron @amasad 1. Thanks for calling me young.
2. Yes, the US abolished these racist quotas in 1965. I.e. they no longer exist.
3. Pointing to Viktor Orbán's Hungary, the global poster child for 'democratic backsliding' and authoritarianism is weird.

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@ethansteininger @liron @amasad 1. I oppose all ethnocracies.
2. Those 'plenty of states' you're referring to are autocracies, theocracies, and dictatorships.
3. Pointing at authoritarian regimes as examples is an abandonment of the moral high ground.

Thanks for validating my argument.

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@liron @amasad The US is a secular democracy with equal rights, millions of Muslims, and no demographic quotas. It is a safe, thriving home for the Jewish diaspora and where you reside. You’re reaching 80 years into the past to ‘prove’ Jewish safety in Israel requires an ethnocracy.

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@liron @amasad The US, Canada, and the UK among other secular democracies fit your definition of “A state dedicated to ensuring that safe living as a Jew is possible” without banning or putting quotas on Muslims (interesting you didn’t say Palestinians) or being an ethnocracy.

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@liron Yesterday: 'Edward Said’s vision of a secular democracy is a violent threat because my state requires demographic/religious primacy!'
Today: 'I support this state because it’s a secular society!'

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@veilofignoranc @liron Your username is based on a Rawlsian concept of a perfectly just, equal society where you don't know what ethnicity or religion you will be born into you absolute cretin LOL

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