BJimenezR8

[BJimenezR8 @BriscoJR8]

@Real_JoJoQueer @thebastard285 @Void246 @gorilla_wrfre The training based on others arts could just be an issue on what do you consider using as training and "plagiarizing", but using others works to work on your own has never been an issue for anything creatively related.

[BJimenezR8 @BriscoJR8]

@Real_JoJoQueer @thebastard285 @Void246 @gorilla_wrfre Well the "replacement" of the creation process isn't a moral issue(besides the loss of jobs but thats not an AI issue) is more a personal one about the quality of a work made solely by AI, but that isnt part of the conversation because good quality products can be made with AI

[BJimenezR8 @BriscoJR8]

@Real_JoJoQueer @thebastard285 @Void246 @gorilla_wrfre It was a hypothetical. Now, is your issue the training on others creations or the replacement of the creation process? Those are different issues and i wanna know what to respond

[BJimenezR8 @BriscoJR8]

@Real_JoJoQueer @thebastard285 @Void246 @gorilla_wrfre Replacing people has always been apart of technological advancements, thats not a problem with the technology, but of the systems

[BJimenezR8 @BriscoJR8]

@Real_JoJoQueer @thebastard285 @Void246 @gorilla_wrfre We could agree somewhat, but coding is primarily a tool. Would you be mad if AI could cook you dinner after you come from work because it wasnt human made?

[BJimenezR8 @BriscoJR8]

@Real_JoJoQueer @thebastard285 @Void246 @gorilla_wrfre AI in art although I'm still pro-AI in a communist perspective, the morally wrong thing about it in capitalism is extracting value off of it without the artists consent, but thats a problem of capitalism, not AI

[BJimenezR8 @BriscoJR8]

@Real_JoJoQueer @thebastard285 @Void246 @gorilla_wrfre Well in this thread OP is talking about how IP doesnt really exist so compesation wouldn't really be the topic of this discussion. But if you say that everything AI spills out is an abomination then you havent used AI in coding.Also you are talking about artist and we about code

[BJimenezR8 @BriscoJR8]

@thebastard285 @Void246 @Real_JoJoQueer @gorilla_wrfre Although I'm pro-AI, I know there are some nuances that people from both sides of the discussion are skipping, but the anti-AI side isn't really talking with knowledge of how it works a lot of the time

[BJimenezR8 @BriscoJR8]

@thebastard285 @Void246 @Real_JoJoQueer @gorilla_wrfre When AI Code is taking the work of hundreds of public repositories, and from the documentation of the given language, to make something entirely different, is that not transformative? And if not, to whom should the credit go?

[BJimenezR8 @BriscoJR8]

@OriginAha @varesaeats And it isnt like if Kafka were that strong she would be centralizing because Disorder already synergizes with Miyabi, she would just need to pull up a little more support/damage for Miyabi to prefer her over Nangong

[BJimenezR8 @BriscoJR8]

@OriginAha @varesaeats We agree that Stun right now is a big part, but that has nothing to do with Miyabi's Kit or Crit MVs. Kafka could be strong enough(she wont) to carry Miyabi through 2-stun Rotations and Miyabi wouldnt feel different which is my point, Miyabi doesnt NEED stun, just strong partners

[BJimenezR8 @BriscoJR8]

@OriginAha @varesaeats But like why would it be correct to say that? She now uses the stun because nangong is broken for her, but if she was a bad battery and kafka isnt i wouldnt be surprised if miyabi would use kafka in that scenario, Miyabi doesnt need stun, just a strong partner(as do everyone)

[BJimenezR8 @BriscoJR8]

@OriginAha @varesaeats Like just because a character has crit scaling doesnt mean they care about stun, what would be the logic there. Stun is just another multiplier Attackers used and Anomaly historically dont because for Disorder you need 2 anomalies applier and then buffer was always BiS

[BJimenezR8 @BriscoJR8]

@OriginAha @varesaeats Not saying you are necessarily wrong, but Miyabi doesnt need stun whatsoever, its just that historically she has synergy with stunners so she used them. When Yuzuha release she preferred ditching Lycaon instead of Soukaku because she cares mores about Disorders and her EBAs

[BJimenezR8 @BriscoJR8]

@KingOfHellMain Woah you went far right there, but the main thing about what i said is that Fearless isnt really being discussed anywhere. People call Flins a fraud and thats only right when you are talking about dire, which is my point. People talk about dire anyways

[BJimenezR8 @BriscoJR8]

@SummonerFlash @Kojo_AN Its not a choice if i have to do it every time. Even if you plan your team to have the HMs distributed, its sucks ass to always have the Flier/Water Type/Normal type as a restriction to teambuilding IN EVERY GAME until they were removed

[BJimenezR8 @BriscoJR8]

@ronpupu2 @zeernar The ult has 2 hits, the first one being normal damage affected by stun mult, and the second one would be the Ember Scar

[BJimenezR8 @BriscoJR8]

@idxsmile Okay I see, thats makes sense too, thx for responding!