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Does intelligence require dreaming?
Absolute blast to have the great Kevin Ellis on the Ndea podcast!
Multiple people I've spoken to for the pod (and even one on our team) got into symbolic AI because of Kevin's "DreamCoder" paper. Legend.
On the pod: our most-requested guest! @ellisk_kellis from @Cornell shares the origins of his influential neurosymbolic paper "DreamCoder".
Plus: program synthesis, wake-sleep library learning, world models, running an AI research lab, and more.
Francois Chollet + Sam Altman Fireside
@fchollet and @sama fireside during ARC-AGI-3 Launch Party moderated by @deedydas
They discuss:
- Social contracts evolving
- AGI views as a parent
- When will labs score >85% on ARC-AGI-3?
"We are trying to build a new branch of machine learning. An alternative to Deep Learning itself...building something that we call Symbolic Descent."
@fchollet joins the @ycombinator Lightcone podcast to share about our research at Ndea and the launch of ARC-AGI-3.
François Chollet (@fchollet) has spent years asking a different question than most of the AI world. Instead of scaling what already works, he’s trying to understand what intelligence actually is and how to build it from first principles.
In this episode of the @LightconePod, he traces that path from his early work on deep learning to the creation of the @arcprize, and the launch of ARC V3, a new benchmark designed to measure something deeper than performance: the ability to learn, adapt, and reason efficiently in entirely new environments. He explains why today’s systems may be hitting limits, what recent breakthroughs really mean, and why reaching true general intelligence may require a fundamentally different approach.
00:00 - AGI by 2030?
00:31 - Introducing Ndea: A New Path Beyond Deep Learning
01:08 - A New ML Paradigm
01:30 - Replacing neural nets with compact symbolic programs
03:04 - Why Ndea Isn’t Competing With Coding Agents
05:20 - Why Everyone Might Be Wrong About Scaling LLMs
07:22 - Why Coding Agents Suddenly Work So Well
08:50 - The Limits of LLMs in Non-Verifiable Domains
10:48 - What AGI Actually Means (And Why Most Definitions Are Wrong)
13:30 - Why Deep Learning Hits a Wall
14:00 - ARC’s Origin Story
18:20 - ARC Benchmarks Explained: From V1 to V3
22:49 - The RL Loop Powering Coding Agents Today
27:03 - ARC-AGI V3: Measuring “Agentic Intelligence”
31:14 - Inside the ARC Game Studio
35:31 - Could AGI Fit in 10,000 Lines of Code?
44:01 - Building Ndea: From Idea to Compounding Research Stack
46:46 - The Future of ARC: Benchmarks That Evolve With AI
47:21 - Why There’s Still Huge Opportunity for New AI Paradigms
53:37 - How to Build a Breakout Open Source Project - Lessons From Keras
56:39 - Advice For How To Think About AI
Thank you to everyone who came out to the ARC-AGI-3 Launch Party last night
Incredible room of people pushing AI forward
ARC Prize 2026 competition is now open - let the games begin
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It's alive! This 3rd version of ARC-AGI represents an incredible amount of work from the ARC Prize team. Hundreds of games. Thousands of levels. Go build agents!
Announcing ARC-AGI-3
The only unsaturated agentic intelligence benchmark in the world
Humans score 100%, AI <1%
This human-AI gap demonstrates we do not yet have AGI
Most benchmarks test what models already know, ARC-AGI-3 tests how they learn
Headed to San Francisco for ARC-AGI-3 launch fun this week. YC demo day, launch event with sama/fchollet fireside, benchmark launch, full website redesign… oh my.