@NiceanRick@ThoughtfulSaint has effectively demonstrated that even creedal Christians can’t comprehend their own Trinity theology. Asking clarifying questions isn’t a bad thing.
@Zion_LDS Prophets and apostles aren’t just leaders of a church—they’re the Lord’s servants, and their message is for all of God’s children. I think its good to consider an audience beyond the members who should already know not to gamble. 🤔
@_consistent_man@tscottme Help me to understand why you’re saying this?
My position is that if someone is saying the Book of Mormon is flat out just plagiarism, that’s absurd. But of the less than 10% of any “word for word”, it totally works given the context for all incidents.
@_consistent_man@tscottme The plagiarizing the Bible take is meaningless. Honestly, if you’re talking about large, direct blocks of biblical text, it’s roughly on the order of ~10% of the Book of Mormon by chapters.
@Ducdenghien@pbabinski91 It does not refute or dissolve the observation that the original statement was deliberately paralleling the two ideologies. Pedantry about the verb does not make the parallel disappear.
@Ducdenghien@pbabinski91 Fine. So you’re technically correct on the dictionary distinction, but it does not change the substance of the original point. But whatever. The dictionary correction is accurate as a linguistic nitpick.
@Ducdenghien@pbabinski91 It’s exactly the word I’m looking for. The statement is equating them in the specific sense of treating both as false, destructive ideologies that should be eliminated as belief systems (not as people).
@RookiePod2664@j_divis If that authority later disappeared, Latter-day Saints believe Christ restored it by revelation (not by reading a succession chart back into the NT).
@RookiePod2664@j_divis And what I’m saying is the NT doesn’t explicitly prove an unbroken institutional chain, but it does show that Christ governs His Church through delegated authority that is passed on by ordination.
@pomsrule5@AdamDommeyer@SpeelingBChamp Yeah, I don’t know what that means.
The LDS canon includes the KJV Bible (all 66 books), so whatever you’re describing—if it differs from what I mentioned—has nothing to do with the LDS canon.
@RookiePod2664@j_divis We then believe that after the apostles died, that delegated authority (keys) was not perpetuated in its fullness—hence the need for a Restoration—while still affirming that Christ never stopped being the true Head of His Church.
@RookiePod2664@j_divis So from an LDS lens, the NT gives principles and patterns (replacement of offices, ordination, continuing need for apostles), even if it doesn’t give a detailed “succession chart.”
@RookiePod2664@j_divis Authority/gifts were conveyed by ordination (laying on of hands). Paul reminds Timothy that his gift/authority came “with the laying on of the hands” (1 Timothy 4:14) and “by the putting on of my hands” (2 Timothy 1:6). That’s a transmission model