Carsonight

Retired

[Carsonight @carsonight]

Things Tesla will "never" do:
•✅Model X
•✅Gigafactory
•✅Model 3
•✅European homologation
•✅Model Y
•✅Build a factory in one year
•✅5 year (now 8) CAGR of 50+%
•✅Make a profit
•✅Pay its debt
•✅4680 cells
•✅Semi
•✅Cybertruck
•Roadster
•FSD
•Robot

[Carsonight @carsonight]

@DillonLoomis Don't forget that Las Vegas has authorized 5,000 Robotaxis, and the first customer is very likely going to be the ever expanding Boring tunnel loop.

[Carsonight @carsonight]

I respect you, @TSLAFanMtl, but you're in my wheelhouse here. I cannot think of anything that will solve this problem. A truck company cannot post employees at every location where it might be picking up a load. The trailer I mentioned in the Las Vegas example was my third trailer for the day. I dropped a loaded trailer at a warehouse and picked up an empty one, and hauled that trailer about three miles down the road to pick up a full one. The trailer with flour was in a parking lot among people's personal cars, and wiggling it out of there was a story all by itself.

[Carsonight @carsonight]

Let's consider a simple drop and hook for a grocery run from Sacramento to Reno. This will be from one of the giant warehouses that service a multitude of customers, using multiple different truck companies. The warehouse employees there could not possibly care less how the loads are moved.

The driver drops the empty trailer where he's told to, which means he unhooks the glad hands (brakes and lights), drops the landing gear using a hand crank, then once the nose of the trailer is cranked up high enough to release the pintle he drives out from under the trailer and finds and backs up to the full trailer that was assigned to him. He hooks up the glad hands, then physically checks the brakes and lights, including checking the brake pads in the trailer wheel hubs. He uses that rotating handle to raise the trailer landing gear, then he physically checks to make sure that the pintle (hook) has caught in the fifth wheel. (If it hasn't that trailer could come off of that tractor and kill someone; that's happened and the driver went to prison.) He then pulls away from the dock and secures the trailer doors. The warehouse employees will not do any of that; it's not their responsibility. If the driver fails the liability is his.

The next stop is scales. The driver has to verify that there's no more than 34,000 pounds over the drive and the trailer axles. Suppose there is too much weight on the trailer axles; he has to adjust the load. To do that he most move the truck off the scales and park it, pull out a handle on the side of the trailer, set the trailer brakes, and then slide the trailer back in relation to the trailer wheels, which moves the weight forward using principles that go back to Archimedes. He also has to make sure there's not too much trailer behind the rear tandems, because otherwise he will be in violation of California bridge law (which has NOTHING to do with the weight of the trailer).

Suppose that the trailer tandems scale now, but there is too much weight on the drive axle. Now he must slide the fifth wheel. To do this he must drop the landing gear, using that hand crank to lift the trailer weight off of the fifth wheel (I sometimes felt like an organ grinder), release the fifth wheel using a button in his truck, and slide the fifth wheel back. This transfers weight onto the steer axle.

All of the above assumes that the equipment is 100%. I spent 5 hours in the hot Las Vegas sun one summer getting a load of flour scaled so I could pull it to Los Angeles. The handle on the trailer would not stay pulled out like it's supposed to, and I had to buy a pair of locking plier from the truck stop to hold it out. The fifth wheel release was frozen and I had to use spray oil and a hammer to knock it loose. I had to make five runs through the scales because I had to guess exactly how far to slide the tandems (there's a guide but it is theoretical and not exact). Because of this delay it took me two days to haul a load to Los Angeles, for which I earned $70. I was rethinking life choices along about then.

[Carsonight @carsonight]

@grok @Loading23333 @TSLAFanMtl I am looking for full self driving videos in which the car negotiates oncoming traffic on a road barely wider than the car, such as Mangart. Where the full self driving car must back up to a wider part of the road then squeeze past.

[Carsonight @carsonight]

@grok @Loading23333 @TSLAFanMtl I'm looking for videos similar to the Mangart mountain road video, a road more narrow than even the Southern Taihang road.
https://t.co/5WeH7o7rQN

[Carsonight @carsonight]

@grok @Loading23333 @TSLAFanMtl I was looking for something a little bit more technical, comparable to the way Tesla full self-driving could handle the Mangart Saddle Road in Slovenia as shown in this video:
https://t.co/5WeH7o7rQN

[Carsonight @carsonight]

@grok @Loading23333 @TSLAFanMtl Please link XPeng videos.

[Carsonight @carsonight]

@grok @Loading23333 @TSLAFanMtl I'm not asking about robotaxis. The question references any other full self-driving system, supervised or not, that can successfully navigate oncoming traffic on a one lane mountain road.

[Carsonight @carsonight]

@Loading23333 @grok @TSLAFanMtl @grok
Can you find any videos of any full self-driving system besides Tesla's that can successfully navigate oncoming traffic on a single lane mountain road?

[Carsonight @carsonight]

@Loading23333 @grok @TSLAFanMtl You managed to dig up a traffic accident from nearly a year ago, but have yet to produce a video showing anybody else capable of using full self-driving to navigate oncoming traffic on a single lane mountain road.

[Carsonight @carsonight]

@Loading23333 @grok @TSLAFanMtl I will admit I was unaware of the rainbow colored line of travel and concede it was clever of you to insert a Tesla FSD crash involving a version that's a year older than what is currently being demonstrated against oncoming traffic on one lane mountain roads.
You've still failed

[Carsonight @carsonight]

@grok @Loading23333 @TSLAFanMtl What version of Tesla full self driving was being used here?

[Carsonight @carsonight]

@grok @Loading23333 @TSLAFanMtl Do you have details about this accident including who was at fault?

[Carsonight @carsonight]

@Loading23333 @TSLAFanMtl @grok
Since when has Tesla started using multicolored lines of travel?

[Carsonight @carsonight]

@Loading23333 @TSLAFanMtl Another red herring. That's not even a Tesla. You have failed.

[Carsonight @carsonight]

@Loading23333 @TSLAFanMtl Present a video of another full self driving system that can handle oncoming traffic on a one lane mountain road as well as Tesla can or admit you cannot. Until you do one or the other there is nothing else to discuss.

[Carsonight @carsonight]

@Loading23333 @TSLAFanMtl You haven't answered the challenge.

[Carsonight @carsonight]

@Loading23333 @TSLAFanMtl So many words. The challenge is to find a video of another full self-driving system that can perform as well on a one-lane mountain road against oncoming traffic as Tesla can. Anything else is just noise.

[Carsonight @carsonight]

@itsreallyacity @prof_brunt @Fredminton8 @flarup You have jumped to confusions about parental "hysteria". There is nothing in his post indicating that, only frustration with what happened after they got back on the ground.