@BDHerzinger@realDrTT This is the problem with Mormons/LDS. All smoke and mirrors, deflection, denial, razzle dazzle. If you pin them down they'll eventually admit it but online they have to maintain this air of "We're just normal Christians tee hee". Why do you hide the temple ceremonies and Kolob?
@BDHerzinger@realDrTT Their training was to pick up low hanging fruit (old ladies, simple people) and give them a razzle dazzle of "nice" sounding Christianity and community. They were deceiving people intentionally, including peeling actual Christians away from Christianity
@BDHerzinger@realDrTT In these dozens of hours of debate and conversation these LDS members (trained in the 90s and 00s, if it matters) were taught that the more "esoteric" aspects of their religion were difficult for non believers and could only be revealed at temple ceremonies and later maturity
@BDHerzinger@realDrTT Yes, they are. They know that these aspects of their religion are and sound crazy and so they avoid discussing them. It's very disingenuous and deceptive.
@DefeatAutism4gd@realDrTT They avoid talking about specifics of the Mormon religion and are trained to obfuscate and deflect about these aspects. citation: I've spent dozens of hours arguing and debating with mormons in my home and on the street
@Lucky84559264@Chitler88@BeSaintly I thought we were talking about what Catholics believe. Yeah the DoW should not have listed JW, Seventh Day Adventists or(some) Pentacostals Christian. But their beliefs are much closer to Christianity than LDS at least, so it's more understandable
@Lucky84559264@Chitler88@BeSaintly (First and Second "Great Awakening") Joseph Smith picked up a lot from Trent revival preachers as a boy and young man in NY before moving West. Deborah of the Trinity was en vogue then
@Lucky84559264@Chitler88@BeSaintly Not singled out. Maybe today because of Mike Lee, but not normally. Seventh Day Adventists, Oneness Pentecostals, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Christian Scientists, to name a few, are also not actually Christian. Fun fact, most of these groups started around the same time
@AppyBeard No. Their view on God the Father and the Holy Spirit make it not even a monotheistic or Christian-like religion by any sense of those words. It's ridiculous and laughable they try to pretend it's just semantics.
They believe God the Father was human and became a god & so can you
@AppyBeard They know it but they have twice weekly meetings where they scheme and plot on how to refute it and a big part of it is to act shocked and hurt and surprised