@BerkSahinello@DenisZtoupas@DenisZtoupas cited a peer-reviewed Cell study. You answered with a social-media ancestry-calculator image and misread “TUR_Anatolian_BA”: Bronze Age Anatolian samples from modern Turkey, not modern Turkish ancestry. Calling him fascist on that basis isn’t a rebuttal.
@Ahmetal06164320@cinarozcan19 You’re mixing treaties. The Dodecanese were not transferred to Greece under Lausanne: TR renounced them to IT in Art. 15. GR got them under the 1947 (IT&GR no TR) Paris Treaty. Lausanne Art. 13 concerns Mytilene, Chios, Samos & Ikaria. No breach creates sovereignty rights to TR
@lunassera We all know that the people of TR come from a variety of ethnicities the original Turks conquered. I've even said it earlier and you liked the comment... You are missing the point. In any case... have a good day.
@lunassera When your own test is applied to Turkic identity, the argument collapses & you revert to ethnic insults.
You use a 2500 BCE language map to call GR & AM invaders, then switch to ancestry to claim Hittites, Luwians and Lydians as Turks
Emotional based nationalism, not history
@lunassera Just food for though, prompted this in Grok for your post: Do a critical analysis of @lunassera's post and replies and tell me where she is right and fair. Where is isn't and where she is being selective in applying logic. Where emotion prevails over logic and where she is wrong.
@erdino1 Modern Turks largely descend from older Anatolian populations. That does not make Turkic identity ancient in Anatolia. The language, ruling elite and identity came much later through Oğuz/Seljuk invasion and conquest. Ancestry is local; Turkic identity is medieval & more recent.
@erdino1 You\re reading labels, not the map. It has unlabeled color zones around the Aegean & Anatolian coast, some matching nearby islands. Without a legend “no Greek label” proves nothing. Even if Greek was absent in 2500 BCE, that still would not make medieval Turkic arrivals “native.”
@spirosthe1st Άνθρωποι που έχουν ποτιστεί τόσο πολύ με συγκεκριμένες ιδέες, που έχουν χάσει την ικανότητα, ή έστω τη διάθεση, να σκεφτούν ανεξάρτητα. Δεν ψάχνουν την αλήθεια, αναπαράγουν αυτό που τους έμαθαν να λένε.
@Twizted_Dream@PrinceOf_Darkns@grok You lost the argument at "is taking from the GDP."
For the love of God I hope you've never taken a single class in economics! That is the only excuse anyone can accept for this statement.
@EDimlos@jemapelleeve Συγγνώμη, το «ακροδεξιά» πού ξεφύτρωσε ξαφνικά; Σόρρυ αδερφέ, αλλά αυτό το παιχνιδάκι «όποιος δεν συμφωνεί είναι ακροδεξιός» δεν το παίζω. Αν θες να συζητήσεις επί της ουσίας (εγκληματικότητα, ενσωμάτωση, κόστος, πολιτισμική ασυμβατότητα) πες το. Αλλιώς δεν έχει νόημα.
@EDimlos@jemapelleeve Η απλούστερη εξήγηση, που μάλιστα μεταθέτει την ευθύνη, είναι σαγηνευτική και πάντα λάθος.
Αριστερά, ίσως φλερτ με αναρχία να υποθέσω;
@Sulla7890@bennyjohnson This is a fact yes, the US has a much higher murder rate. So what’s your point? The Brits should keep quiet until they match it? One attempted street beheading by an "asylum seeker" isn’t worth talking about , or rioting over?"
@leglocka@bennyjohnson I’ll set aside that you’re equating events from centuries ago under a different political entity with today’s societal debates. Quick question: where exactly did the Irish (as in, Ireland itself) carry out colonizing/resource-grabbing policies against other nations? Enlighten me.