Once again, the Scottish government has been trounced in court.
I do not know why John Swinney is so keen to put male murderers in women's jails but it is now clear that doing so is unlawful.
📢📢 Judgement Day!📢📢
FWS wins in the Outer House of the Court of Session
For Women Scotland v The Scottish Ministers
Judicial Review of the Scottish Prison Service Policy for the Management of Transgender People in Custody Operational Guidance.
https://t.co/j5zXBiCqz4
@The__Sequel@nickwallis Sure. But that depends what you mean by justice. I think justice isn’t only about convictions and acquittals but also about safeguards against the caprices or overreach or incompetence of the state. The funding position won’t change while they keep getting away with it. 🤷🏻♀️
@The__Sequel@nickwallis We all assume we’d be the victim in these scenarios. We need to remember that it only takes one accusation for our lives to go very wrong. Justice needs to be just, and underfunding, delays and incompetence in the courts doesn’t make for a just society.
@The__Sequel@nickwallis I’d be apoplectic with fury. But until that happens, the justice system will be allowed to get away with this shambolic approach. Justice like this is not justice, for victims or accused. The state cannot be allowed to be this cavalier with people’s liberties and reputations.
@The__Sequel@nickwallis No, justice isn’t done if the state can delay - deliberately or because of incompetence - leaving a victim without redress, or an innocent accused with a cloud of suspicion hanging over them. Throw these cases out & the state will start ‘resourcing’ its ‘justice’ system properly.
We look forward to a time when Amnesty returns to its core charitable purpose of promoting and defending human rights rather than promoting and defending self-harm.
Supposedly ‘cute’ pictures under a pink and blue flag should not be used to disguise the brutal reality of this unevidenced experimentation on vulnerable young women.
I’m going to unpack some of this.
1. The premise that women are unknowingly carting around a Y (with SRY) is massively over exaggerated. The risk of Surprise SRY is minimal.
2. The risk of Surprise SRY is, however, non-zero. But in reproductively healthy women who have had periods and, more definitively, had kids is as near to zero as one can map in science.
3. That is, if you are a person who got a period before 16yo (ish), who has ever been pregnant or who has had the kind of screens that are offered to women (like cervical screening) without any drama, I’d bet my house you don’t have SRY.
4. If you have proof you have popped eggs and/or seen your ovaries, you would be almost singular (literally in the scientific record, the second case to my knowledge) if you also have SRY, functional or otherwise. If that’s me, with my entirely healthy reproductive system and physiology, I’m writing myself into a paper.
5. If you are born appearing female but actually carting around a Y with an SRY, it will almost always make it’s presence felt during puberty. You won’t menstruate, your GP might then discover unusual anatomy etc. Nobody in the U.K. should be getting Surprise SRY.
6. Ironically, Mums to boys are the most likely confounder (via fetal microchimerism). It should not need to be said that picking up some cells from the baby boy you’ve carried in your belly doesn’t change your sex. The carrying of the baby boy, almost certainly from your own egg, refutes that. 🙄
7. If, despite being an apparently healthy woman, you get a Surprise SRY, that means you’re an interesting woman, not a man. It also means that you won’t be excluded from female sport. Because whatever your genetics, sport is divided on bodies.
8. The lay person’s fascination with genetics and the cultural position that DSDs are “just normal variation” has led a fair amount of even normally-sensible people down a dumb rabbit hole. They are medical conditions that are really rare. 1/20k is a binned frequency that we use in genetics to describe things that are really rare. It’s not a measured number, it’s almost qualitative.
The nature of sexual predators is to predate - to find their next victim.
It is the role of safeguarding to put as many barriers between them and their next victim.
It seems that the role of TQ+, particularly transactivism, is to remove as many of those barriers as possible.
@rejserin 'Trans woman' is a compound noun meaning 'man who wishes to be considered a woman.' 'Trans' isn't an adjective. Remove 'trans' and you haven't got a woman, you've got a man who doesn't wish to be considered a woman.
Remember, every person who says they are disgusted by the Supreme Court judgment is admitting that:
They’re disgusted that female sexual assault survivors might meet in a support group to open up about their trauma, without men being present.
They’re disgusted that lesbians can socialise exclusively with other lesbians, without men being present.
They’re disgusted by new mothers gathering together to discuss breastfeeding or post partum problems, without men being present.
They’re disgusted that girls can play sport with other girls and shower, change and dress, without boys being present.
They’re disgusted that organisations - which realise they are too male dominated - can’t fill any female quotas with other men.
They’re disgusted that vulnerable female prisoners and arrestees can’t be searched by men or kept in a cell with other men.
They’re disgusted that women can have their own things.
They’re disgusted by the Equality Act 2010.
They’re disgusted by the law.
Isn’t that disgusting?
To that end, several of their MPs demanded that the Equality Act be dismantled by pulling on the thread marked sex. As the Supreme Court realised, this would unravel protections for women, pregnancy and maternity, and LGB people. Vikki Slade didn’t quite start talking about “genocide”, but she wasn’t far off, announcing that “One of my constituents described this code of conduct as ‘trans apartheid’. Another said that it was ‘state-sponsored repression’.” Ah yes, because the true hallmark of repressive regimes is telling men that women are allowed to say “no” to them.
@glosswitch@dilanesper Where do they think elite athletes come from? Girls that get pushed out by boys with identities at grassroots never become Olympians.
The Supreme Court has ruled that under UK law, trans people never had the rights people like you insisted they had. You misrepresented the law and cheered on the removal of women’s rights. Trans people have lost nothing except the mistaken belief you fostered.