Clem Pineapple

you see long legs I see hot dogs we are not the same

[Clem Pineapple @clem_pineapple]

@GoodAmericanMan @nathanfielder You don’t really get tongue in cheek huh

[nathan fielder @nathanfielder]

Here is official trailer, You Can See Everything

[Clem Pineapple @clem_pineapple]

@dilanesper @xwanyex You can’t just switch the subject in the middle of your sentence 😡

[Clem Pineapple @clem_pineapple]

@olivertraldi @varrock Oh I get it - they ran out of oxygen and died!

[Clem Pineapple @clem_pineapple]

@innbayo_ @TheMailman10462 @BostonSatire How so? What specifically do you now know about this user beyond “they are capable of noticing things”?

[Clem Pineapple @clem_pineapple]

@sfmcguire79 They’re gonna keep crying wolf until everyone is *actually* racist

[Clem Pineapple @clem_pineapple]

We’ve already done this - in my neck of the woods they were called “alternative schools”.

Basically juvenile detention center but in daycare form. You have “classes” but little expectation of any work being done. Just give kids the bare minimum amount of structure and heavy supervision from hard asses.

Our local one was run some ex-heavyweight boxer black dude who was intimidating as fuck and could actually get a bit of respect from kids who were otherwise hopeless.

[Clem Pineapple @clem_pineapple]

Cool. That has nothing to do with this particular production.

If the racial element were as irrelevant as you claim it to be, there would not have been a deliberate decision to swap the race of the offender. Clearly the producers thought it was important enough to act on.

You seem to be bending over backwards to convince others (and maybe yourself) that this isn’t a real issue but we’ve got dozens of examples of this occurring just in the past year or two. There’s a trend here that goes well beyond coincidence, and it’s in service of sociocultural goals, not artistic ones.

The general consensus is very clearly that representation in media matters and that even fictional productions still have real world effects on people’s perception of different racial and cultural groups.

[Clem Pineapple @clem_pineapple]

@NathanJRobinson @doctor_bombay There was no question posed by the article. That’s why people are forming their own in response.

For an article that so honestly admits failure, there’s a remarkable lack or reflection on the ideas and assumptions that led to this situation.

[Clem Pineapple @clem_pineapple]

@NathanJRobinson She had multiple better options which had nothing to do with her own status, which would have been available to any parent in her situation in NYC. She opposed these options in naive ideological grounds, not because they were options only pursuable by a select few.

[Clem Pineapple @clem_pineapple]

Are you pre-supposing that people acting in natural self-interest is a “problem to be solved” rather than a driving engine that can be harnessed in a productive manner?

Trying to stifle basic human nature via policy is an act of futility. People *should* feel greater obligation to the human beings they brought into the world than to strangers.

[Clem Pineapple @clem_pineapple]

@DrewPavlou The comparison to Arday is remarkably apt but not for the reasons she thinks…

[Clem Pineapple @clem_pineapple]

@DrewPavlou So all white people should shoulder the responsibility of actions taken by our past countrymen (in many cases not even ancestors) but it’s racist to even ask her about shit her own father did?

[Clem Pineapple @clem_pineapple]

@sunnylohmann @educatedandfree @marcportermagee Sounds like a made up problem that isn’t actually based on any real world evidence. Is there such a lack of artistic endeavor in Asian cultures that the overall society is worse off for it?

[Clem Pineapple @clem_pineapple]

I mean she has every incentive to play along, because “oh yeah my daughter was actually smart all along!” invites much less guilt and scrutiny than “my conscious choice to sacrifice my daughter’s education for social brownie points led to her being intellectually stunted, and the school would rather lie to placate my ego than educate my child”

Her whole premise was “I’m such a big deal that the school will get better due to my mere presence” and the reality is that this was a naive load of narcissistic horseshit

[Clem Pineapple @clem_pineapple]

@JMacNYC @carney Kids can’t read or do basic fractions? The answer is obvious - these kids need an awards show

[Clem Pineapple @clem_pineapple]

@sfmcguire79 Plus what would the response in her NYC circles be if she quietly walked it back and let her daughter switch schools without acknowledgment?

[Clem Pineapple @clem_pineapple]

Theoretically true, but we don’t have the cultural groundwork laid for this to be a common case in the US right now. There is absolutely nothing incentivizing dumb parents to engage with their kids’ education.

Socially speaking I think people need a combination of positive role models and negative reinforcement/shame from the immediate community for people doing wrong by their kids

[Clem Pineapple @clem_pineapple]

@Geoffiam @marcportermagee It’s astoundingly showing that the more money we dump into the worse it gets lol

[Clem Pineapple @clem_pineapple]

I mean I think it’s a fair point that most people are so tribal that they’ll quickly forgive or overlook most hypocrisy. I probably overstated the hypothetical impact of her not getting out in front of this.

But I do think this was a factor still - she’s not just an online persona, she lives in these circles in NYC and rubs shoulders with her ideological peers constantly. She would lose some status among these groups if she stopped practicing what she preaches without explanation, even if her general audience doesn’t care.