Cloud Chamber Vapor

Formerly a successful business converting smokers to a less harmful alternative. Now facing ruin due to fake news and government corruption.

[Pippa Starr - Let's Improve Vaping Education! 🇦🇺 @LivePippas]

Black Market Vapes?
What black market?
Huh?
🙈🙈🙈🙈
@DrBFreeman, have you seen any black market vapes anywhere?
As a lead in the @nhmrc guiding committee that advised Govt, you should have seen something surely! ?

[Pippa Starr - Let's Improve Vaping Education! 🇦🇺 @LivePippas]

A lover of Simon’s work attempted to harm my reputation.
She blocked my profile then proceeded to insinuate that I was a tobacco shill. Wow 😮
Oh the irony, it was on my post about STONEWALLING!
@LisaZed2 take this as your final warning before you have to get yourself a lawyer!

[Pippa Starr - Let's Improve Vaping Education! 🇦🇺 @LivePippas]

Vapers And Vaping Experts Stonewalled By Lawmakers!
by Pippa Starr

Health Minister Mark Butler introduced bans on importing ALL disposable vaping products on January 1 this year, with intention to further ban all vaping products and accessories from March 2024.

To get to this point it would be fair to think that not only some modelling or a case study would be carried out before spending over $750 million on initiating these new laws.
What about some consultation with the millions of adult vapers?

Leading Australian vaping expert called out the health minister for lying with good measure here:
https://t.co/L8Al6elJ9O

and even called for a Royal Commission as seen here:
https://t.co/bufcdIk27i

While a handful of diehard vaping advocates may have been aware there was some public consultation with the TGA, the few that put their points forward were basically treated like a crackle of white noise.

Prior to rolling out plans to ban vaping Health Minister Mark Butler conducted a closed round table meeting with Emily Banks, Professor Tom Calma, Professor Simon Chapman, A/Professor Becky Freeman, Maurice Swanson and PHAA CEO Adjunct Professor Terry Slevin.
Has anyone been blocked by these people or their associates?

As vaping gains prominence as a harm reduction tool worldwide, the battle for its acceptance and accessibility intensifies.
In Australia, the fight for vaping rights has been further complicated by the silencing of vaping advocates on social media platforms, hindering the dissemination of crucial information and stifling open dialogue.

Anti-vaping advocates and non-governmental organizations (NGOs) as seen in post below, have been playing a significant role in blocking vapers on platforms like X (formerly Twitter), shaping public opinion and influencing policies that have led to detrimental vaping bans.

Social media, once hailed as a beacon of free expression and a platform for diverse viewpoints, has unfortunately succumbed to a biased suppression of vaping-related content.
This bias is perpetuated by anti-vaping activists and NGOs who strategically wield their influence to silence pro-vaping voices, by systematically blocking vapers and their advocates, they create an echo chamber of negativity around vaping, swaying public perception and steering the conversation towards unwarranted fear and misinformation.

The ramifications of this censorship extend beyond mere suppression of individual voices.
It directly impacts the broader public's understanding of vaping as a harm reduction tool.
By limiting access to credible information, anti-vaping forces capitalize on the lack of diverse perspectives, presenting a skewed narrative that demonizes vaping without acknowledging its potential benefits as harm reduction for smokers.

Australia stands at a critical juncture in its vaping policy discussions.
The unwarranted censorship of vaping advocates on social media platforms impedes the ability to present well-researched facts, studies, and personal testimonials that highlight the positive impact vaping has had on countless individuals seeking an alternative to traditional yet deadly smoking.

As a vaping advocate in Australia, it's disheartening to witness the deliberate obstruction of conversations that could shape more nuanced and evidence-based vaping regulations. Instead, the one-sided narrative pushed by these groups and individuals contributes to the misguided portrayal of vaping as a societal menace rather than a viable harm reduction tool.

The repercussions of this censorship are not limited to virtual spaces.
They have tangible effects on public policy and legislation.
By controlling the narrative, anti-vaping groups pave the way for stringent regulations or outright bans on vaping products.
The lack of a balanced discussion leads policymakers to overlook the potential public health benefits of vaping, thereby denying smokers access to a safer alternative and perpetuating the harms associated with combustible tobacco.

It is imperative for social media platforms and regulatory bodies to uphold principles of free speech and ensure that all voices, including those advocating for harm reduction through vaping, are heard. Suppressing dissenting opinions inhibits informed decision-making and undermines the democratic values that should govern public discourse.

In conclusion, the stonewalling of vaping advocates on social media platforms, orchestrated by anti-vaping advocates and NGOs, poses a severe threat to open dialogue and informed decision-making regarding vaping regulations in Australia.
To foster a fair and balanced discussion, it is essential to allow diverse perspectives to thrive, empowering individuals to make well-informed choices regarding their health and well-being.

[GrimmGreen @GrimmGreen]

Is a "public health" organization allowed to block people asking questions?

If I had asked about nutrition rather than vaping would I still get blocked? Or is #harmreduction just a touchy subject for public health?
@_PHAA_

[Pippa Starr - Let's Improve Vaping Education! 🇦🇺 @LivePippas]

If you have been blocked by an AUSTRALIAN
Anti vaping advocate
and or
An Australian Non Govt Organisation or Govt org,
Please put ALL of those in the replies below.
All of them! Screenshots please!
Several replies for each block screenshot by same person is ok!
Even if others have posted the same ones no worries, all the people and the organisations YOU have been blocked by simply because they didn't agree or wanted to block vaping questions or information.
The public need to see this collection!

Thank you. 🙏

[Pippa Starr - Let's Improve Vaping Education! 🇦🇺 @LivePippas]

An Open Letter to Mark Butler in response to Media Release published 2 January 2024
“Disposable Vapes Now Banned”

Dear Mr Butler,
There are two main reasons why a prescription model for vaping came into existence.
#1 to protect exposure to teens
#2 in December 2020 a senate enquiry chose to lean on what we now know is severely debunked evidence that stated that vaping is a gateway to smoking.

But what about the adults who quit smoking via vaping, do they not matter?

Firstly, let’s keep in mind that a prescription model for non deadly vaping products, as an adult consumer product that sits as a direct competitor to deadly combustible nicotine products like cigarettes is like making someone getting a prescription for zero or low alcohol beer!
Imagine if that was implemented, there would be as bigger uproar as there was in the dark old days of alcohol prohibition.
It’s interesting that although alcohol during the dark old days of prohibition was also only available via a prescription.
History has taught us well, how that went.

Now let’s address the #1 concern.
You stated,
“Vaping is creating a whole new generation of nicotine dependency in our community, especially amongst young Australians” and
“The Albanese Government is taking world leading action to stamp out vaping – to protect a new generation of kids form getting hooked on nicotine.”
It has always been illegal for underage youths to access smoking and vaping products.
Exposure of vapes to youths has been predominantly via products sold via the black market that emerged fast after your predecessor Greg Hunt implemented his version of the prescription model for vaping.
That has clearly failed!

#2: The Gateway theory of non-smoking vapers becoming smokers is not only as ridiculous as expecting someone preferring a juicy mango flavour experience to the taste of burning bushfire, but also conflicts with a multitude of science in this area.
For example this one here: https://t.co/bYbAEI8bvk

Billions of dollars are being fed into a black market of illicit vapes with zero return for the Govt budget.

Will border controls will work?

It’s been illegal to import combustible tobacco products for decades without an appropriate permit yet over 25% of all smoking products entering Australia are illegal imports.
Why will vaping be any different?

Let’s be realistic, before this gets even more embarrassing for you, our borders can’t even keep heroin or cocaine off our streets!

Do the adults who wish to consume a far less harmful alternative to smoking matter?

As a Queensland vaper David said yesterday,
“protect the kids but let adults make their own decisions!”
He also likened your actions on vaping like
“Labors version of Robodebt ie. A punitive measure that will cost lives!”

We know that just 8% of adults who vape purchase their products legally via prescription and the remainder via the failed prescription plan of the previous Govt .
Hence the booming firebombing black market!

James, a vaper from the NT said it well,
“I will not get a prescription, I am not sick, I am not a patient, I smoked for 40 years, 6 years ago I took proactive steps to prolong my own life and switched to vaping and gained huge health improvements over time.

Adult consumers feel they are not being heard.
Kim from North Queensland said there’s been “No open two-way consultation with vapers and those who did try and engage were ignored!”

Carla from Sydney expresses her concern for the Australian Govt doubling down on vaping bans when there is a thriving black market already!

While Chris in a damming statement said “if I can’t continue to use my normal vape mod, I’m just going back to the cigarettes and refuses to be treated as a criminal or junkie and would rather get cancer!"

65 year old Marg wasn’t even aware of the latest measures coming till yesterday and said
“If I my vape isn’t available I will go back to the cigarettes”.

There is also concerns from taxpayers around the massive costs associated with the implementation of your latest vaping prohibition measures.
Ian from Sydney questions the value of the redevelopment of the My Quit Buddy App.
Mike from Melbourne questions the cost burdens on Medicare asking
“How much will this cost the taxpayer?”

You stated “there has never been a better time to quit vaping”, without any regard or care taken to consider adults who quit smoking via this most effective quit method.

Dianne a vaper from Perth expresses concern that
“many smokers will not try vaping because by propaganda that it (vaping) is worse than cigs”.
That's the impression you made to her in your media statement!

Paul from Brisbane said
“it appears the government are doing their best to get me back on the smokes”.

Gillian from Adelaide quit vaping 10 years ago using an open system vape and said she will “decide to quit vapes on her time line not the Govt’s” and refuses to use inadequate pharma vapes.

Bee from South Australia, who stopped smoking after 50 years by vaping fears “returning to smoking if the vaping supplies I so carefully chose become unavailable.”

Shaun from Brisbane fears returning back to the smokes after switching to vaping 1054 days ago.
He also stated that a variation of flavours and nicotine levels are required to maintain control over not returning to smoking.

You outlined the “free confidential support to quit smoking or vaping, call the Quitline” service that hasn’t shown it’s engagement statistics or been subjected to KPI’s in years!
The last known figure from nearly 10 years ago showed that just 1.8% of smokers had engaged with quitline. What is that number now?

Steve, a vaper from Victoria asks,
“Should I use the same quitline that blocked me because I am a vaper?
He is not alone either, I have been told by many other vapers over the past 5 years that they have been met with gruff responses from Quitline service providers over the phone and on social media.

Nel Matherson shares a growing sentiment of Australian voters stating
“We desperately need our population to quit CIGARETTES and TOBACCO, so we legislate to ban the most effective method of doing so. It's bonkers!”

Reflected in the attitudes of these adults who have quit smoking via vaping it’s clear they have lost confidence in what you are doing Mr Butler.

Micheal from Glenelg reflects the sentiments of many when he refers to you saying
“he doesn’t give a flying f*** about people returning to smoking” and “he refuses to see what has happened in New Zealand over the last 3 years”.

Al from Victoria said, it’s “typical Govt overreach and clearly shows a lack of understanding of how vaping works and what vaping is”.
He also stated it demonstrates “a total lack of duty of care”, while outlining that Australia’s smoking rate decline has stalled behind other countries who have zoomed past Australia in recent years.

Australia used to be a world leader but now has smoking rates well above the USA, Great Brittan, and New Zealand where vaping is NOT a prescription access only product.

Mr Butler, with all due respect sir, your voters are turning against you.
81% of all voters agree that vaping products should only be sold to adults via licenced retail outlets,
ie. NOT only via chemists via prescription.

The media have caught on to how much of a huge black market there is now and why.
As seen on Channel 7 and the Sydney morning herald yesterday.

You really have no where to hide the certainty of failure of your policies on vaping.
Australia knows this is just not right nor in the best interests of public health.

Regulations are important as harm reduction measures are.
Regulation on vaping must be proportionate to risk.

The evidence in which you have initiated plans to decimate vaping in Australia is not sound and will certainly result in the avoidable outcome of lives being shortened on your watch!

I recommend involving all stakeholders before proceeding any further with legislative measures to do with vaping, because doing otherwise will be completely and utterly irresponsible.

Kind regards
Pippa Starr

[GrimmGreen @GrimmGreen]

You’re chasing the wrong boogeyman Tanya. #vaping can save Australian lives. Throwing smokers under the bus to protect youth from a nearly harmless product genuinely makes me question your motives.

@KingsCollegeLon

https://t.co/CZsUVnAa5N

[GrimmGreen @GrimmGreen]

@ProfGlantz 2019 was 5 years ago. Why does all the data you present end in 2020?

What happened after 2020 Stanton?

[Pippa Starr - Let's Improve Vaping Education! 🇦🇺 @LivePippas]

Apparently I’m making quite an impression on “X” lately.
It’s just been pointed out that up until August 2023 my average monthly impressions were 40000.
The last 2 months average has tripled to 120000 per month.
Thank you for your support of what I do!

But it’s only together that we can and will all continue to make the greatest impressions to help smokers quit, pushing aside the corrupt and incompetent mumpsimus’s for good!

May you all enjoy a smoke free 2024!

[Cloud Chamber Vapor @cloudchmbervape]

@LivePippas Bring in different wire every day and ask how many turns for a .8 ohm double coil. 😈

[Charles A. Gardner, PhD @ChaunceyGardner]

@ParkviewHealth This misinformation you share is a form of negligent homicide. You create misperceptions. You exaggerating harms to cause smokers to continue to smoke. Half of them will die. Their deaths are on your head. You have blood on your hands.

[𝗗𝗔𝗡 𝗠𝗔𝗥𝗟𝗜𝗡 @dnmarlin]

Remember that time @HarvardHealth lied about vaping and got called out on it by the vaping community and then @CommunityNotes so they deleted the post?! The Internet never forgets.

[GrimmGreen @GrimmGreen]

@CNBCi I don’t care how it impacts the tobacco industry. I care how it impacts the death and disease caused by smoking cigarettes. The rise of #vaping is undeniably good for public health.

@muschollings
https://t.co/T0T43jptF4

[GrimmGreen @GrimmGreen]

I'm keeping a collection of anti-vapers getting community noted.

@HarvardHealth, @CongressmanRaja, @eNCA, @MyFranciscan and @DrIanWeissman are all enshrined in the gallery of liars.

[Jim McDonald @whycherrywhy]

You’re less likely to be diagnosed with popcorn lung from vaping than to be murdered by your Harvard dormitory roommate. One has happened; the other has not.

[Jim McDonald @whycherrywhy]

Hey, @BloombergDotOrg — how much do you spend persuading low-income countries to ban vaping — bans that can’t even be enforced? If you spend $33 million, that’s 10,000 lives lost to malaria that you could have saved. But you spend much, much more than that, don’t you?

[Jim McDonald @whycherrywhy]

Matthew Perrone might as well be on the @tobaccofreekids payroll. He echoes the tobacco control talking points du jour every single time.

[Marc and Bernie @SeismicPirate]

Vapers: pls vote

[GrimmGreen @GrimmGreen]

So @CASAAmedia went full scorched earth calling out @WHO on their unfounded opposition to #harmreduction #vaping 👇🏻

Great read

[GrimmGreen @GrimmGreen]

Why doesn't the @LungAssociation care about lung cancer? I actually have no idea.

This chart is actually outdated. New Lung and Bronchus cancer dropped off the bottom of the chart to 47.1 per 100,00 people in 2020. #Vaping killed smoking

https://t.co/Z1Z6qZql38