السؤال:
سئل الشيخ سيف العصري: هل للنبي ﷺ حق التصرف في الكون فيفعل فيه ما يشاء؟ وهل هذه هي عقيدة أهل السنة؟
الجواب:
فأجاب الشيخ بالإيجاب، مؤكدًا أن هذا هو معتقد أهل السنة، وأفاض في ذلك بجواب مفصل.
@saladin0070@alq4ri@alq4ri It is YOU who is committing fallacy of equivocation regarding the word "sabab."
@saladin0070 Bro's statement is 100% correct.
It is kufr to affirm Allah is necessitating cause [ila] or that He is an event and has no intrinsic power. By Consensus.
https://t.co/ea0ZBsDEhh
@alq4ri Time to start crying. 😅
For saying any blessing is attained solely from Prophet ﷺ is ONLY understood to be in terms of him being the SOLE sabab
To claim that this would negate Godhood is to implicitly affirm God is sabab which is KUFR by consensus.
https://t.co/GVZA4UzYqS
@alq4ri@saladin0070 Secondary casuality is attributing effects to contingent Causes instead of the Creator. And you stated your objection quite clear here. However when it comes to proving it, you are fumbling as is obvious. I said you are liar for a reason.
https://t.co/lAfCP7Tdw0
@saladin0070 this is NOT causality, again this is a حكم عادي, fire has no real effect and only Allah creates and causes the fire to burn. whereas you negated Allah's effect and only affirmed the Prophet ﷺ's effect, honestly stop embarrasing yourself
@saladin0070@alq4ri Notice that he cited you here and said you affirmed secondary causality and negated primary causality.
Jahil doesn't even know, affirming a sabab (means) can never negate the Musabbib (the Creator).
https://t.co/DgX6SnQtdA
@saladin0070 YOU are the one affirming secondary causality and negating primary causality, dont try and claim Ashairah and Maturidiyyah, same tactic u used before with ARK, oh yeah u ran from that btw,
https://t.co/kyiv5DNUSy
@alq4ri@saladin0070 It does actually prove it because secondary casuality according to both asharis and maturidis is attributing ability to the contingents to influence either intrinsic or deposited. And if you never meant this your claim of secondary casuality falls flat.
@saladin0070@alq4ri Hold on a minute. Even while conversing with me, he has said that you affirmed secondary causality even when you repeatedly denied it. He needs to prove what he has claimed.
@alq4ri@saladin0070 Where did he say the created thing has any causal influence? He iis repeatedly negating it.
Calling fire, a cause while negating it has a casual influence is CLASSICAL Sunni position. This is what he is affirming all along.
@alq4ri@saladin0070 He affirmed correlation and Negated causality between the contingents which is the madhab of both asharis and maturidis.
Where did he affirm casuality?
@alq4ri@saladin0070 Actually, you are making a mockery of yourself because All Ghazali like all Asharis and Maturidis categorically AFFIRM Created "Causes" and Created "effects" because they "CORRELATE" with each other. That doesn't necessitate causality between them.
@alq4ri@saladin0070 Where did your interlocutor say Fire has any real effect? Claiming fire is the cause of burning is not equivalent to saying fire has any real effect. How many scholars of Ahlus Sunnah do you know that affirm Allah is the creator of causes and effects? You are strawmanning.
@bahlul_majnun@saladin0070@asad786ahmed@UmarElhashmi By changing meaning of "Seal" and saying "without that criteria there will be no contradiction", you have accepted the deobandis are WRONG when they say it is rationally possible for his Nazirs ﷺ to exist simultaneously.
We are cooked? 🔥
@bahlul_majnun@saladin0070@asad786ahmed@UmarElhashmi Ya jahil, entire discussion that happened for last few days IS regarding impossibility of multiple seals with meaning of "SEAL" which is true for our Prophet ﷺ and it IS an EXCLUSIVE, ABSOLUTE finality. Nobody shares it with him ﷺ. You ARE COOKED. 🔥
@bahlul_majnun@saladin0070@asad786ahmed@UmarElhashmi Isn't Finality ﷺ or seal of Prophethood ﷺ exclusive to him ﷺ i.e. no Prophet one other than him is attributed with it? It is this meaning of finality ﷺ that we assert is rationally impossible for multiple Prophets. You don't know what Finality ﷺ entails, we are teaching you
@bahlul_majnun@saladin0070@asad786ahmed@UmarElhashmi What does term khataman nabiyyīnﷺ means ?
Let me teach you:
Khataman Nabiyyin is exclusive for Prophet ﷺ,
He is the last of all Prophets to be born,
He is the last of all prophets to be sent forth,
Next time, do not enter a conversation that's above your paygrade.
@bahlul_majnun@saladin0070@asad786ahmed@UmarElhashmi You said, unless you put some additional criteria such as “there can be only one seal of prophet at the one time.
1. Is the station of finality of Prophet ﷺ shared with some other Prophet?
2. What is the meaning of "seal of Prophet ﷺ" according to Ulema?
@bahlul_majnun@saladin0070@asad786ahmed@UmarElhashmi This post confirms that You don't even know the meaning of "Seal of Prophethood ﷺ". The UIema has a consensus upon the meanings that are affirmed for his finality ﷺ.