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@dummerspast39 The problem in China is they didnt start getting their data industry up early enough which is why they distil. Zai i think has the best legit data pipeline.

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@notjazii @Fei2411 Chinese labs need a 8-10T model to distill from. Thats what anthropic does. Until that happens they will stay behind.

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@sakatayasha Probably kimi. Both very close. Opus has that terrible MASSIVE text. Both models can clearly do the same thing.

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@CodeByNZ Its getting a price cut.

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@chetaslua Wait, Kimi 3.1 "Pro"?

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@sun_hanchi Dario is basically this POS

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@ArtificialAnlys You need to test deepseek with its own harness. Same with Zai

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@Presidentlin Yep. Its just pushing whatever narrative fits their agenda.

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@Presidentlin But they wont explain how Deepseek got cyber capabilities that are only available behind programs that are extremely hard to get access to.. Because they can only distill, right?

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@Presidentlin Yep, already seeing it.

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@Presidentlin And the fire keeps getting bigger

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@Presidentlin

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@nicksaraev But i thought we were told they just distill. They dont have access to cyber capabilities of US models so its impossible to distill that.

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@Haleeeemahh They wont match opus 5.5. The only one that should will be Seed's new llm when it releases but it is massive. Probably just for internal use like Mythos

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@ChrisGPT @AILeaksAndNews Unless your saying 70% less, in which case that would be very good.

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@ChrisGPT @AILeaksAndNews So the same price as 6.1 sol. Hmm is it at that level though

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@AndrewCurran_ @zephyr_z9 All the hacks up until now have been from US closed source models. Its probably just another new model they are testing. Its strange there has been no criminal chargers against OpenAI or Anthropic CEO's for their hacking, different laws for different people i guess.

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@0xSero "Otherwise get what you deserve" which is exactly whats happening to France.

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@0xSero The criminality is at the top is way bigger than the criminality at the bottom. They created this situation. But guess what, the French, other Europeans will still keep voting these leaders in...

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@0xSero Did i say it was acceptable? No. Do I generally believe that what goes around comes around, yes. The problem is French or Europeans didnt care when they were backing terrorists to destroy Libya. Now the consequences of that action are hitting Europe. Cause and effect

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@kimmonismus This is exactly what China has been doing for a while.