Seeing about 5 flows of agentic coding:
1. Standard: Codex / CC chat
2. Parallel work trees: Conductor
3. Goal based: /goal
4. Ticket / Linear : OpenAI Symphony
5. Self improving
Any more ?
72 hours after YC demo day, I moved to Shenzhen for 8 weeks π€
I'm headed back to SF with new hardware in hand (sharing more soon), but some takeaways documented below:
> If you have even the slightest ambition to found a hardware company, visit SZ. Pre-raise, pre-team, pre-idea, pre-job departure, it doesn't matter. Just go.
> Plan your visit according to a major conference that interests you. Use that conference as a supplier meeting springboard - that's your ticket to any factory under the sun.
> At the factories, ask about lead times, don't ask about cost (wait on this). Your iteration rate is driven by the lead time on the longest lead time item in your assembly. It pays to identify these parts early to build project timelines.
> Visit Huaqiangbei (read: this is a mini-city, not a building). Robotic subassemblies, batteries, chassis's, electronic parts. They all have buildings where vendors are tightly clustered. Plan to spend 4-6 hours walking around before you find exactly what you're interested in.
> Business relationships are valuable commodities. Treat them as such. Pay attention to people, learn about them. Bring thoughtful gifts. Wait for them to sit first. With Baiju, fill the glass but with tea leave some room. Cultural customs are fun to learn, but also convey a seriousness towards the working relationship.
> Suppliers fit cleanly into discrete buckets. Level of complexity and execution on past projects indicates what is in scope for them. Trivial, but important to level your build expectations. It is easy to design a part with 12 subsequent manufacturing processes, exceptionally hard to find a supplier to fill this order.
If you need coffeeshop recs, food recs, or hotel recs I have a few.
Move to Shenzhen! Get to building!
Went to Shenzhen on a whim and main mission was to see as many consumer robots out there.
Iβm sure companies like Unitree are cooking up more interesting things that will come to market.
Started a research piece on this so will share shortly.
just a small zoom out on the vibe shift:
in Feb 2025 @soumithchintala was talking about his dream of personal, local, private agents, most people didn't believe him.
it's June 2026 and @pewdiepie has just released his vibecoded @opencode wrapper that is a complete personal AI productivity suite including email, docs, and calendar. top of HN, easily >1m views, >10k stars in a day.
if your Knowledge Work Agents startup can't beat pewdiepie you might as well pack up and go home at this point, his is the benchmark for what you can DIY.
π DeepSeek-V4 Preview is officially live & open-sourced! Welcome to the era of cost-effective 1M context length.
πΉ DeepSeek-V4-Pro: 1.6T total / 49B active params. Performance rivaling the world's top closed-source models.
πΉ DeepSeek-V4-Flash: 284B total / 13B active params. Your fast, efficient, and economical choice.
Try it now at https://t.co/GCdiMzk1Dl via Expert Mode / Instant Mode. API is updated & available today!
π Tech Report: https://t.co/drlDrxkYtp
π€ Open Weights: https://t.co/T13Y8i7SDM
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- Still driving with Codex app
- 2 repos x 2-5 agents is my human limit
- Losing joy for coding as I'm just becoming a review slave. Focusing more on distribution.