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pray didn't help kirei kotomine, did it?

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@BerRgp Wel yes it doesn't "prove" anything because concepts about internal biases are hard to get proof of anyway. Like, outside of someone outright admitting it. I dont think that makes the conversation "pointless" I love Orchel.

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@furniture_high Are you on your way to work or something?

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@furniture_high The question implies something i didn't say so no reason answer sorry 🤷🏿‍♀️

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@stasiscommand Oh yea yea I got that. I'm disagreeing with your approach for reasons listed above. I have grok blocked.

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@allenvonghornet No I mean which characters they think are attractive, Which characters they empathize with, Which characters they call feminine or masculine, Which characters they see as aggressive etc and how real-world biases could affect that.

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@oomfplode @demi_darling Yea it's honestly on me for not checking the source 🙏🏾 please don't think I care *that* much about a reddit poll I promise im not like that 😭

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@allenvonghornet You've given me hints so far but I just wanted confirmation that you were purposefully ignoring my attempts to have the productive conversation you keep claiming can't happen.

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@allenvonghornet And I have a question real quick, would you consider yourself "progressive" and would you say that the way characters are treated in fandom can show hues of a larger, societal issue?

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@allenvonghornet Maybe not by you, like i already said.

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@BerRgp How would it disprove colorism? 3/5 of the top 5 are unmistakably light and Theodora is a made up skin tone and Leda is also pretty light. The colorism idea stays in tact. And to clarify here, a reddit ranking isnt "proof" of anything but it can start these conversations

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@allenvonghornet Yea theyre mad Fabio is number 1? What's the issue?

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@allenvonghornet *We* don't have to have a conversation about this. People are allowed to have a conversation about this though, and you can move on if you're not going to say anything relevant to the premise was my point

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@allenvonghornet You acted like people wanted Cock and Tobias in the top 5? No one said that.
You acted like the conversation can't be productive, I gave 2 avenues of discussion that are productive imo.
Now you are acting like I'm being super rude so you can't have a conversation?

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@allenvonghornet But we weren't talking about "other types of representation" This was a racial conversation

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@allenvonghornet There's a productive conversation on racial biases in fandoms and *who* gets to written in x way if you're capable to have the conversation. If you're not, you'll exaggerate and say things like "you guys think it must be racist that Cock and Tobias are not in the top 5"

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@FatesLandia @demi_darling I made the comment before I realized it was a REDDIT poll so yea honestly certain things make more sense to me

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So online that they genuinely believe black people and women have had it too good for too long

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I'm literally so sick of this account and have been for YEARS

[unripe 🍏 is tired ☆★ @unr1pegir1]

"ALL BLACK PPL ARE C1SHET AND ALL WHITE PPL ARE QUEER" -

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@Magnus_9_IOI @demi_darling I haven't really seen a shonen protag barely making top 10 before. He's also more written than some of the characters placed higher so 🤷🏿‍♀️ I think there's a variety of *reasons* Cai is not higher. I'm not shocked about Fabio's placement

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@stasiscommand The premise is out of all these characters in a racially diverse cast a white guy beat everyone else and its not even close and you're going "but 2nd and 3rd are women of color! There's 2 queer men!"

"It's unfortunate, but he's well written so its understandable" a better reply