@DavidCantone@xaviiii007@pilarcarracelas I a mi el que no em sembla correcte que el Papa no s'impliqui més en la terra que visita. No li escau fer només de vedette. Li escau més fer de "servum servorum Deum"
@carlesrebassa Si el papa ve a ignorar-nos i menystenirnos, no és cap cosa per agrair ni per fer festa. Perquè aleshores el que ve és a insultar-nos. Déu no menysprea a ningú, que no ho sap el Sant Pare?
En quin episodi de l'Evangeli heu llegit que Jesús menyspréés els samaritans, per exemple?
Tants estudis sobre els efectes del colonialisme, però cap que expliqui com ben entrat el segle XXI un capellà negre que viu a Barcelona parli exactament igual que els procuradors franquistes que proclamaven que Guinea Equatorial era territorio nacional com la província de Soria.
Omella és un dels gols per l’escaire més macos que ens han colat en el partit Catalunya-Espanya, un matx amb àrbitres comprats en què, tot s’ha de dir, també ens hem fet autogols.
Omella és espanyol.
El meu dit a l’ull dels divendres a Segre.
https://t.co/RUFEUUtkKV
Les pintures de Sixena no van ser objecte d'espoli, mentiders. Haurieu d donar les gràcies cada dia a Josep Gudiol i la Generalitat de Catalunya per haver-les salvat el 1936, desagraïts. No teniu vergonya ni sabeu el que és. Sou uns manipuladors i indignes de representar a ningú.
True respect for Christ is rooted in truth, and the Church teaches that faith must be incarnated in the culture of the people. Christ does not demand the erasure of a nation's identity. Denying Catalan at the Sagrada Família on Gaudí's centenary is a political imposition, not a religious necessity.
The polarization comes from the political decision to exclude the native language of the territory and of the architect himself. A religious act respects the identity of the local community. Denying Catalan at the Sagrada Família on Gaudí's centenary is what weaponizes religion for assimilation.
@RobertMGHowes@RBerenguerIII@Pontifex Qui polaritza és qui imposa, una llengua diferent de la que emprava Gaudí, que si ho veiés se sentiria certament profundament dolgut. I ho fa per motius polítics: la llengua de qui mana i no la del poble i de la terra. La llengua dels vencedors perquè és vegi qui és l'amo.
Citing Villar and the Tragic Week only proves that you do not understand Catalan history. Villar resigned after just one year, having barely laid the crypt, and it was Gaudí who spent 43 years completely redesigning the temple as a reflection of the Catalan spiritual soul. The Tragic Week in Barcelona was an explosion of local social tension, not a generic "Spanish reality."
You are the one using political events to justify the current linguistic exclusion. Acknowledging that Gaudí was beaten and jailed in 1924 by state authorities for refusing to speak Spanish is a historical fact, not deviation. The blessing of his masterpiece on his centenary must respect his identity. Denying his native language to appease a state-driven agenda is what truly corrupts religion with politics.
Citing Bocabella doesn't alter the Catalan reality of the temple. Bocabella founded a local Barcelona association, and he explicitly chose Antoni Gaudí to realize his vision. Gaudí transformed that initial idea into a monument deeply intertwined with the Catalan soul, investing his life into it until he was arrested by police in 1924 just for speaking Catalan.
The anti-clerical sentiment Bocabella fought was a Spanish political reality, but the response was built entirely from the faith, resources, and language of Catalonia. Erasing Catalan from the blessing of this masterpiece, especially on the centenary of Gaudí's death, is a distortion of history. You cannot honor the founder or the architect by censoring the native language of the land that actually raised the temple.
Your historical revisionism is completely absurd. The Sagrada Família began construction in 1882 as an expiatory temple funded exclusively by local Catalan patrons, built by Catalan guilds, and designed by an architect who refused to speak anything but Catalan. Trying to dissolve its identity into a generic mid-century immigration narrative to justify Spanish imposition is a desperate lie.
Furthermore, using the Spanish Constitution as an argument is peak hypocrisy. Article 3 guarantees the duty to know Spanish, but only the right to use Catalan, a legal asymmetry that has historically been used to oppress our language, not protect it. If the Constitution actually "guaranteed" its respect, we wouldn't be fighting against the deliberate exclusion of Catalan in our own national temple.
Invoking a "unifying vehicular language" to silence the native tongue of the land and of Gaudí himself isn't unity; it is a textbook definition of imperialist assimilation. The only language that unifies the stones of the Sagrada Família is the one Gaudí used to conceive them.
If faith is truly a "community binding agent," it must embrace the actual community that built the temple, not erase it. True Catholic universality (catholicus) means unity in diversity, not uniformity through coercion. Forcing Spanish exclusively onto a local community isn't "binding"; it is a political act of assimilation that creates the very polarization you claim to despise.
St. John Paul II’s Slavorum Apostoli and his addresses to the UN explicitly defended that a nation's culture and language are fundamental to human dignity and spiritual development. He knew that erasing a nation's identity under the guise of "unity" is a false peace.
Insisting that Gaudí’s masterpiece be blessed in his own language is an act of justice and cultural respect. The polarization happens when a foreign political agenda enters the sanctuary to censor the mother tongue of the local faithful and of the architect himself. You cannot build a genuine community by asking one side to disappear.
As a practicing Catholic, you should know that faith never exists in a vacuum; it is incarnated in a people and a culture. St. John Paul II explicitly stated that the Church defends the cultural and linguistic rights of every nation. Bringing the Gospel to the local language is a core Catholic principle, not "silly politics."
This is the consecration of a temple designed by a man whose cause for beatification is currently open. Gaudí’s profound faith was entirely inseparable from his love for Catalonia; he saw his architecture as a prayer in stone written in his native tongue.
To strip Catalan from the blessing of his masterpiece—especially on the centenary of his death—is what truly desecrates the act. It reduces a deeply spiritual, local celebration into an instrument of political assimilation. Honoring Gaudí’s language isn’t putting a movement above God; it is stopping a secular, nationalist agenda from censoring a future saint's identity inside his own Church. 🎗️
Let’s be absolutely clear: out of pure respect for Antoni Gaudí’s life, identity, and legacy, this blessing shouldn't just include Catalan—it should be conducted exclusively in Catalan.
We are commemorating the centenary of his death. Gaudí was a giant of architecture precisely because his genius was inseparable from his deep Catalan roots and faith. He was beaten and jailed by the police for refusing to abandon his language.
The Sagrada Família is the ultimate symbol of Catalan spiritual and cultural soul. Celebrating the completion of his masterpiece in 2026 by erasing his language and imposing Spanish is not a neutral or pastoral choice; it is a violent rewriting of history and a supreme insult to his memory. If the Vatican truly wants to honor Gaudí on his centenary, it must respect the language of the creator and the land that built his temple. Anything less is a political submission. 🎗️