I remembered that the State department also had a role in Trosky living in New York for several years and being helped by the US Govt to enter Russia in 1917, just as the Germans were aiding Lenin.
I asked the new Grok Heavy the following because I no longer have my old library due to unfortunate circumstances:
In the book 'Wall street and the Bolshevik revolution' there is a discussion of the arrest of Leon Trotsky in Canada as he travelled from New York to Russia in 1917. Can you summarize
Yes, here's a summary of the discussion in Antony C. Sutton's Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution (primarily in Chapter II, titled along the lines of "Trotsky Leaves New York to Complete the Revolution").
Sutton uses the 1917 incident as key evidence supporting his broader thesis: that certain American financial elites and U.S. government figures (linked to Wall Street interests) actively facilitated the return of Bolshevik revolutionaries to Russia, despite official suspicions during World War I.
Key details from the book's account:
Departure from New York: In late March 1917 (specifically March 26), Trotsky left New York City aboard the Norwegian steamship SS Kristianiafjord (sometimes spelled Christianiafjord) with his wife, two sons, and a small group of other Russian socialists/revolutionaries. He carried a U.S. passport issued under the Woodrow Wilson administration. Sutton highlights questions around Trotsky's finances and lifestyle in New York (his reported income vs. spending) and notes he was reportedly carrying around $10,000 in funds—allegedly subscribed by socialists and possibly linked to German sources in New York (per British intelligence reports cited in the book).
Detention in Halifax: When the ship reached Halifax, Nova Scotia (Canada was then part of the British Empire), on or around April 3, 1917, Canadian and British naval authorities forcibly removed Trotsky and his group from the vessel. They were interned at the Amherst prisoner-of-war/concentration camp in Nova Scotia alongside German POWs. The official suspicion (drawn from declassified Canadian government archives and British intelligence cables that Sutton references) was that they were German agents or subsidized revolutionaries plotting to destabilize the new Russian Provisional Government (post-February Revolution) and harm Allied war efforts.
Release: After roughly three to four weeks of detention, Trotsky and his companions were freed in mid-to-late April 1917 (around April 21–29, depending on exact records). Sutton describes interventions that led to this: telegrams and advocacy from New York attorney N. Aleinikoff (sometimes spelled Nicholas Aleinikoff) and Arthur Wolf, who contacted Canadian officials like Deputy Postmaster General R.M. Coulter and military figures (e.g., Gwatkin). These efforts, combined with pressure from the Russian side (Provisional Government/consul protests) and orders from London Admiralty authorities, secured the release. Sutton notes the zeal of some Canadian officials in pushing for it and cites sources (including a later MacLean article) suggesting possible U.S. State Department or "underground" influence from influential parties in Washington or New York.
Sutton frames the entire episode— the easy issuance of the U.S. passport, the funding questions, the detention despite valid documents, and the relatively swift high-level intervention—as part of a pattern of preferential treatment for Bolshevik figures. He contrasts this with the security concerns of the time and ties it to other examples in the book of Wall Street-linked banks, firms, and individuals (e.g., references to figures like Charles R. Crane on related travel or broader financing networks) who allegedly helped enable the revolution for economic or strategic reasons. The book draws on Canadian archives, U.S. State Department files, and contemporary reports to document this.
Note: This is a neutral paraphrase based on public discussions and analyses of the book (the event itself is well-documented historically and also appears in Trotsky's own writings). Sutton's interpretation is controversial and part of his larger argument about elite financial support for the Bolsheviks; mainstream historians often debate the extent of direct "Wall Street funding." If you'd like context from other sources on the historical facts (separate from Sutton's spin), let me know!
@onetallorfour Unless he's trying to establish a hegomny around the USA in our hemisphere to resist the Communists of The CCP and KGB to finally finish us off
The real data should be Gold vs all the outstanding debt in the global markets, it's got a long way to go, up and down for sure, but in the long run, when the derivative markets collapse and hey will, and liquidity disappears, measure real assets against gold, think Weimar Germany