@Kmacphish23@TheWrigleyWire I don't have a dog in this fight, but are you diminishing the fact that he pitched 14 times at an elite level or are you saying undying pitching 14 times is a feat to be sneezed at. Genuinely can't ten which side you're on.
@SandyMac718 Why we moving on from JJ so fast? You have to go and get your best hitter who isn't a rookie to try to throw shade at our rookie? What exactly would Sal be competing with Burly for? I mean I can find a dozen veterans having better season than Sal, but they ain't rookies.
@the_dequavis23@rodrigoiy12@TungSZN I'm not defending Hayes. I wish we didn't have him on our team. I only repeated than many in baseball think he's best defensive 3B. Maybe he's not, but my point is that being a great defender alone doesn't keep you on the field, but hitting does.
@Vladifan091@BraydenWayantt@DTBCardinals@paceball__ That means he's small in stature. As such isn't likely to be a good 1B. So while you all are saying he's a much better fielder, he's actually a good 2B and in reality would probably not be as good as Sal at 1B because,well, midget.
@Tate_Roberts_@SandyMac718@BaseballErectus Because one guy is in discussion for ROY in case you don't know. For the award he's only competing against other rookies and not veterans. Unless you think they are competing for MVP which they're are not. So why bring them up together. There's no competition between them.
@b0bsondugnut Hypotheticals like if JJ played at GABP? Or if Sal played at Busch? That's all I've heard from Cards fan ever since JJ forgot how to hit at the all star break.
@Vladifan091@BraydenWayantt@DTBCardinals@paceball__ Of course because he plays second and last I checked there isn't a foul line to one side. And no one disputes that JJ is better 2B. But why not ask how good of a first basemen JJ would be? He's a 5'10" midget. How would his recieving numbers look?
@TaiwanDude@TungSZN Why doesn't a leadoff guy like JJ have a bunch of doubles and a guy like sal does. It isn't like Sals would be doubles all go over the fence. It's because he's a gap hitter more than he's a HR hitter. He takes what is given. Watch them both and see that JJ isn't there yet.
@SandyMac718@BaseballErectus You brought it up fella. You say something silly to get responses and someone gives you a real response and you don't want to play anymore.
@TheOhioLegacy Joey himself admitted they were correct and even changed his entire approach later in his career to reduce his walks and batting average to favor more power. Realizing that indeed he was not a leadoff hitter and his job was to knock in runs and not to walk.
@PigskinDFS@TheOhioLegacy Because WAR, right? Schwarber is a 2.9 WAR and no one on there planet would choose weatherholt. In fact Schwarber makers 16 mil more per year. And when Sal gets his contract, mark it down it'll be more than weatherholt.
@stlcrdnlsfn08@TaiwanDude@TungSZN "cherry picked stats to support the (incorrect) idea that he is as good on the road, but he just isnβt"
Dude hits more RBI, equal HR, and a higher batting average and he's not as good on the road? Sure you can cherry pick a stat or two, but he might actually be better away.
@stlcrdnlsfn08@TaiwanDude@TungSZN If you don't think how a guy hits the ball with runners on doesnt matter, I'm not sure what to tell you as the literal definition of a winner is there team with there most runs. By they're way, look at Sals stats with runners on. They are even better.
@Vladifan091@BraydenWayantt@DTBCardinals@paceball__ Yes they are. To a degree. Obviously there is subjectivity to it. And there was a time when scoreres were much more stringent than they are now in assigning errors. All that said, that terrible defender Sal only has two. Same number as JJ.
@stlcrdnlsfn08@TaiwanDude@TungSZN Oh now he's not a good hitter on the road? He's got 14HR at home and 13Hr on road. His BA is 12 pts higher on road. He has more RBI on the road than home. Heck, he has more RBI on the road than JJ does combined. Cmon man. You aren't a serious person.
@TaiwanDude@TungSZN WAR is not as real because before a ball is even hit it adjusts for non occurring events and gives certain positions more credit. The traditional stats are things that have concretely and verifiably happened.