For all of Tumblr’s issues I do think the longer posts, tagging system, and sort of exclusivity of staying within your fandom through all of that makes it a better place for analysis compared to here where you can get on anyone’s FYP. And the people here are a lot meaner.
@petyrcat Truly!!! I do value the mutuals and conversations I’ve had on here especially for HOTD but Tumblr would have been a much better place to post all of that. I loooove finding a character centric blog and seeing their well thought out analyses! There’s so much you can do!
@TheYapmaster I don’t think we’re more sensitive to it when many people, especially here, are dismissive towards analysis of it in literature and other media, and insensitive toward any depiction of it that doesn’t fit a specific mold. People aren’t equipped to discuss it but they do anyway.
This isn’t an unusual response to someone seeing sexual violence loom over a text but nonetheless it is a frustrating one. Why is it that SA is often seen as too far, but murder and cannibalism are not? Are we desensitized to violence of that nature and not to this? How? Why?
@sourafgrapes I’m so sorry. 🫂 It’s very upsetting to me too and many people do not seem to recognize the implications of what they’re saying when it comes to this.
One thing people are doing is assuming with that thought experiment is that it’s coupled with a desire to see it graphically depicted on page and it’s like, no, not truly! It’s more: if it’s present elsewhere, is it present here? And what would that look like to the audience?
@gravefemclem@unsteadydragon Also treating COCSA as an improbability goes to downplay its prevalence, again, they’re in a situation of state sanctioned violence, whether it’s for “survival” or not. The Capital participated in sexual abuse of tribunes, so why is it far fetched for it to happen in game?
@gravefemclem@unsteadydragon The games are also state sanctioned violence and entertainment for a corrupt Capital. And as Suzanne Collins was inspired by what she saw from the U.S invasion of Iraq, sexual violence is a pattern in war. Like Abu Ghraib. Why do you sum that up to people “getting a hard on”?
@gravefemclem It doesn’t matter what you “think” when it has been weaponized against those with intellectual disabilities, it’s derogatory in nature. I didn’t switch topics: you don’t have the capacity for empathy in this regard or have a point to stand for the literary analysis needed here.
@gravefemclem@unsteadydragon Why do you think it’s acceptable to use slurs in a conversation about sexual violence and interpreting the response to it / its absence in literature?
@jakeobeyan I think I agree! They’re seen as lesser crimes against the self, like in the vampire show and Hannibal (& in general fandoms), that yes, stabbing or consuming someone aren’t seen as these violent, emotionally tolling crimes, but more of how deep their love for each other is.
@weedatman You are absolutely correct about this, Len! I also think that sexual violence is often seen to be perpetrated by a specific type of person, so in texts where it isn’t overt, and if a character doesn’t fit that, then it can’t be there so any suggestion of it is met with suspicion.
BTW I fell asleep immediately after posting this so I would like to add that this is a conversation that needs to be had in multiple different fandoms, as I’ve seen this a lot in the past and most responses to SA being in a text is met with refusal and that bothers me to no end.
And, what does it mean for us when we treat sexual violence as an oddity that just doesn’t happen or, that most characters must somehow be above it because despite murder and cannibalism being a violation of the self, sexual gratification can’t be a part of it? How offensive.