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@PaulFrambot how does rate discovery work without utilization curves tho? in a pool you at least have a pricing anchor. offer based matching where both sides post different terms... feels like MEV would have a field day
@jwsaml been using cursor plan mode alongside both. cursor for daily work because the harness + UI is better. ultra plan for big multi file architecture. codex when i want minimal hand holding. no clear winner, different tools for different scopes
@yacineMTB step 4 of The Algorithm only works after step 2. most teams try to speed up processes that shouldn't exist. then they slap AI on top and wonder where the 10x went
@Alfred_Lin most orgs actively punish this behavior. you surface 30 broken things in one day, congrats, you now own 30 problems nobody wanted to look at. the missile only survives when leadership actually wants to hear it, not just says they do
@icanvardar how long can they keep pricing below cost to lock enterprises in though. cloud wars worked because margins eventually flipped. with inference demand outpacing optimization, i'm not sure that flip ever comes
@auren i'd push back on 'AI skills' as a category. the people i've seen get the most out of these tools already knew how to decompose problems before AI showed up
@nikitabier you hired Aave's former CPO (who built a self custody wallet), announced in-app trading, x money launches this month. only "maybe" left is custodial vs self custodial
@Scroll_ZKP dissolving a 12 member security council first and promising to "work with stakeholders to find a new structure" later isn't a transition. it's a gap. you design the replacement before you tear down what exists, not after
Stop flying blind with your AI agents. The new Cloudflare CLI and Local Explorer are here. Now you can shell into a running Sandbox, inspect filesystems, and debug agentic workflows in real-time from your own terminal. #AgentsWeek
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@PeterDiamandis no retraining, no calibration, no fine tuning. every model currently deployed can just... use this? the 6x memory reduction being a pure drop in might be bigger news than the numbers themselves
buried 3000 words deep: aave labs will invest in agentic AI
protocols building proper agent infrastructure early (permissions, spending constraints, not just API wrappers) are going to own the next wave of DeFi volume. this deserves way more attention than a bullet point
Aave Will Win, the most important proposal in Aave's history just passed with a landslide.
Here's the master plan going forward:
General Direction
- Aave becomes fully token-centric: one asset, one model: $AAVE
- To date, protocol revenue per AIP-1 has accumulated to the Aave DAO: $140M in 2025, with 2026 on track to match that despite the market downturn being limited to protocol-only revenue
- The AWW proposal introduces a new revenue stream: application and product revenue generated outside the Aave Protocol, now directed to the DAO as additive revenue
- This covers Aave Pro, https://t.co/V3TzmYrmSG, Aave App, Horizon (RWAs), and Aave Kit, all flowing back to the DAO treasury
- Swaps on https://t.co/V3TzmYrmSG and Aave Pro are already generating $10–20M in new revenue on top of existing protocol revenue
- Aave V4's reinvestment feature ensures that float capital in pools generates yield, creating additional revenue streams, similar to how Aave V4 Spokes open up new revenue opportunities
- AWW gives Aave exposure to the full vertical stack. Owning that stack is increasingly critical in a competitive landscape where protocols get commoditized
- AWW also establishes a community-protected vehicle to independently govern Aave's brand assets and IP on behalf of token holders
- Aave Labs commits to working exclusively on Aave-related products, fully locked in
- If you own $AAVE, you own not just the economic rights of the protocol, but the brand, the users, and the integrations
In other words: everything belongs to one asset, the $AAVE token
- We believe tokens are the greatest opportunity of our time to build collectively governed protocols, but a single, unified vision is essential for execution
- That vision is provided by Aave Labs, working alongside all Aave service providers to grow Aave from a $40B protocol to $1T and beyond
Product Layer & Distribution
- Aave App will onboard millions of users with a simple, fintech-like experience while ensuring users retain full control over their funds, backed by $1M account protection per user. A card will also launch later, generating additional fees for the Aave treasury
- Aave Pro will be the premier destination for power users: sophisticated features, simple on-ramping, and the best of DeFi in one place
- Aave Labs has the best designers and design engineers in the space, committed to delivering a high-fidelity experience for every user
- Aave Kit will provide SOC2-compliant, enterprise-grade integration for fintechs and partners
- Horizon will expand with Aave V4 support and more flexible asset onboarding to scale RWAs on Aave
- New Aave V4 Spokes will unlock additional collateral and address the demand side of DeFi liquidity
- Together, these products aim to bring DeFi to everyone and position Aave as the base credit and repo market for the entire $400T+ TradFi asset base
Engineering & Tech
- Aave Labs has the best engineers in DeFi. We built V1 through V3, GHO, and most recently V4, and this is just the surface of what we're building next
- Aave V4 paves the way for next-generation lending, and Aave V3 will remain fully supported and maintained by Aave Labs for years to come
- We are security-first. Smart contract security, application security, and ICT security are non-negotiable, and our recent SOC2 compliance reflects that. Institutions expect it, and we deliver it
- We will invest in agentic AI, opening up new opportunities for developers building with Aave
Marketing
- Aave has historically led crypto in brand, events, content, and partnership marketing. We're doubling down on our brand recognition and the strong foundation we've built
- Going forward, we'll expand into new audiences and channels to bring Aave mainstream, building net-new, stickier userbases among people who are new to DeFi
Growth
- Aave will deepen relationships across the DeFi ecosystem and build new bridges with fintechs, banks and asset managers
- At its best, Aave isn't a bank. It's a financial network that any fintech, bank or an asset managers can plug into, and providing the best integration tools will be key
BD efforts will rely on tight collaboration between service providers such as Token Logic and our partner networks
- We honor our long-term partnerships and commitments, including @chainlink
- We recognize the value Aave represents today and expect partners to approach us with the same respect
Governance
- We support a multi-contributor model for Aave and will continue to embrace it
- We will oppose any vendor lock-ins or service providers that build products for themselves at the expense of token holders
- We require full transparency from the SPs and no tolerance for relationship gating as all value needs to drive to Aave
- Zero value leakage: everything built with Aave's funds must benefit Aave and be owned by Aave
- SPs who align with these principles and commit to what's best for token holders will have our support on budgets, as long as they are reasonable
- The DAO is taking a zero-bureaucracy approach: execution and skin-in-the-game are what matter. We are competing with some of the world's most efficient and well-funded organizations, and there is zero room for friction
- Every SP will have real, measurable goals. Payments for posting governance proposals are over. We've already consolidated SPs to focus resources
- Governance process improvements are coming in the months ahead: more efficiency, less politics
Risk Management
- We will continue to support a multi-layered risk management process encompassing both an economics risk layer and a technical risk assessment layer conducted by Aave Labs
- Aave's risk management will include external risk managers such as Llama Risk and Token Logic for commercial and economic assessment. Aave Labs will also establish a permanent internal risk management function to coordinate and support external risk managers, making the overall system more resilient
Building a Regulatory Moat
- Aave Labs has spent years building a regulatory moat around Aave's products and deepening vertical integration
- Aave is one of the only DeFi ecosystems operating at scale with regulated entities, including Push Virtual Assets Ireland, which is authorised as a CASP under MiCA, alongside a UK EMI-licensed entity
- We are actively pursuing additional licenses globally to enable seamless, 1:1 fiat-to-Aave onboarding for mainstream users, a prerequisite for mass adoption
- We go where the bar is high
Policy
- Aave Labs' policy team is world-class. We've participated in every major policy consultation over the years and will continue to fight for DeFi, protecting it from harmful regulation and ensuring legal certainty for users and integrators
- The next few years will be pivotal for DeFi policy. We are fully committed
Our Principles
- Security-first above all else. This is non-negotiable
Everything we build is truly DeFi, with self-custodial access at its core
- Innovation-driven, we will move the space forward by innovating and building something new
- For DeFi to scale, we need new audiences. That means growing the pie by building better experiences and infrastructure for users to access DeFi
- Friendly by default: anyone should be able to work with Aave if the merits support it
- Build and operate in public. Everything we do will be done openly, with the highest standard of accountability
This is the direction we are committing to, a multi-year journey. The foundation is set. Now it's time to build.
Aave will win.
@jxnlco the pipeline maps 1:1 tbh. "take a deep breath" is comfort building. "you are an expert at X" is pedestaling. "my career depends on this" is emotional dependency. prompt engineering is just the mystery method for LLMs
@Kekius_Sage because the world rewards confidence more than correctness. promotions, followers, funding, all of it goes to whoever sounds sure, not whoever's right. being confidently wrong has better expected outcomes than being uncertainly right
@aidan_mclau and you can't fake it. people who love the tech vs people who love the idea of working in tech. that gap shows up fast in the details nobody thinks to check