@Cesurlavi@sharghzadeh@FranseviEfendi First Iranic speakers also came from the Corded Ware culture not Yamnaya culture, and thus like Yaz were not pure Steppe people. However Cordeds were like 85+% Steppe so direct ancestry from Corded Ware in Persians would be 20-25%
@Cesurlavi@sharghzadeh@FranseviEfendi 35-40% is the highest amount lol. Average Turk is actually 15-20% , and those by the Black Sea typically have close to 0% Turkic ancestry. In Persians steppe ancestry is 15-20% but Yaz, the ancestral Western Iranians, ancestry is much higher as they also carried farmer ancestry
@Schwalbenjager@FranseviEfendi Tatar was an exonym with a different meaning in Russian. Azeris have always been called “Tork” by both Azeris and other Iranians in Iran
@SozbayAslan and Luri, while Northwestern Iranian languages developed into Kurdish, Adhar, Balochi, and Caspian languages. The Western Iranian language split is much older than the Slavic, Germanic, and Turkic language split. Kurdish is much farther removed from Persian than Turkish to Kazakh
@SozbayAslan Western Iranian languages split into Northwestern and Southwestern ~3000 years ago when early Iranian tribes from Yaz (in modern day Turkmenistan) settled in either Elam (Around Ahvaz by Iraq) or Mannaea (by Urmia). Southwestern Iranian languages later developed into Persian
@ilaydaa453@turkish_li78759@aykiri Because Uzbeks are mixed as well. They are mostly Iranian by ancestry, but do have Turkic ancestry than Anatolian Turks on average
@NikosP92@ozzie8811 Incest is impossible under those rules. Most Icelandic or Irish couples are much closer related to each other than the average North Indian Hindu couple
@NikosP92@ozzie8811 The Hindu tradition in North India is to not marry within the clan name of either 4 grandparents, within a village or any surrounding villages, and less than a 6th generation relative of the father side or a 4th generation relative of the mother side.
@Emreahmet167@47Tolkien The pre-Islamic Iranic presence in Hakkari is disputed, although Pahlav speakers were historically noted but likely came from the east in Atropatene. Just like how the Aramaic speakers would have came from the south in Nineveh. All that said, Kurds did not originate from Hakkari
@Emreahmet167@47Tolkien In fact, linguistics ties Kurds to Atropatene/Adharbagan as Kurdish is a Pahlav language (Northwestern Iranian) and genetic analyses prove Kurds mainly descend from ancient Hurrian-speakers of lake Urmia (mainly Mannaeans), with minor Proto-Iranian, Armenian, and Lezgic ancestry
@colmargoltz@47Tolkien Most Kurds don’t live in Anatolia, and none of the regions historically called Kurdistan (which just means “Land of Kurds”, ie regions where Kurds inhabit) reached historic Anatolia. Though under some modern definitions “Anatolia” includes all of Asian Turkey
@47Tolkien Eastern/Iranian Kurdistan isn’t here. But regardless, the Kurdish insurgency would actually be milder since no borders divide Kurds, as that’s one of the most major grievances of the Kurdish struggle. Though I wonder how Turkey’s “democracy” would look under this timeline…
@gunabaxanski@mahpishooni23@fulanifulani Naghadeh only recently became majority Azeri, and that’s only when you include Karapapakhs who don’t even speak Azerbaijani natively