Desmond Minds

Beautiful mind...

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His point is simply that, whether our scriptures are Corrupted or preserved, the Quran still needs our scriptures in order to stand.
And nothing in the Quran will make any sense without our scriptures.

So if the Quran says our scriptures are Corrupted, then it's relying upon corrupted books to establish its Truth. Which will make those books the standards of judgement for the Quran.

If our scriptures are preserved, the Quran is still false, because the content of the scriptures contradicts the Quran, hence it is false.

If Quran claims to be correcting the previous scriptures, then it's circular, by presupposing that the Quran is true in order to judge the previous scriptures (like saying the Quran is true because the Quran says it's true). So if the Quran is circular then it's also false.

Anywhere you go, the Quran is false.

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He hung himself, then fell and burst open his stomach.

The narrators are telling parts of the same story.

We can see that in the Quran too, where one place says it was the Holy Spirit (one) that told Mary she'll bear a child, and another place says it was the angels (plural) that told Mary. Most Muslims will say it's both, and that it's different parts of the same story.

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@miggyboutanut @trad_west_ I'm from Nigeria and I beg to differ.

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@SSGRETURNS @grok, do you think Muslim conversion rates in the middle east or other Muslim dominated or Islamic states are under-reported so much? Due to apostasy laws, stigma and fear?

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“Only 2 + 2 is 4” versus “2 + 2 is only 4.”

In the first, “only” excludes every other possibility. In the second, it simply affirms that the sum has one true identity "4" and nothing else.

The same principle applies theologically. When we say “The Father is the only true God,” we are not primarily excluding other persons. We are declaring that the Father fully and exclusively embodies the one, undivided divine essence.

There is only one true God, and the Father is that God, completely and without remainder. This affirms strict monotheism while leaving intact the possibility that this single divine nature exists in three distinct persons. The “only” protects the unity of God’s essence, not the solitude of His person.

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@adezbou @Basedawah Now answer me, how does Muhammad or anyone verify the stories of the Quran?

Don't bring Abraham or the prophets, because I'd ask you how you knew anything about them at all.

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The Quran is the very thing in question here bro, that's circular reasoning.

Here's what you're doing, " I believe the Quran because the Quran says it's from God, I believe it's from God because the Quran says it's from God"

And worst of All, it claims to affirm previous books, which makes it even worse for the Quran..

It's easy for me, all I have to prove is that, the details of the Quran makes no sense without prior scriptures.

All you're trying to do now is to show how it's independent of the prior scriptures, and you're doing a very bad Job.

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@adezbou @Basedawah You don't know anything about how Abraham and Noah verified their revelations without the Bible...

You don't even know they exist without the Bible

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@adezbou @AntiCapmoves @Basedawah There's absolutely nothing wrong here.

It's not contradicting at all..

You just failed to read in context, you copied a dawah script without looking it up

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@adezbou @Basedawah How would he verify that? How would he verify all the stories that Allah revealed to him.

It could have been a jinn or the devil, how would he know this revelation is true?

This is a dilemma for you.

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@ItsYahya15 @MakiTheSalafi There's never a time you put things into context, your entire Paradigm is built on cherrypicking the Bible.

With your rhetoric, you claim it's corrupted but there's still a remnant of truth in it, with this line of thought it's only natural that you cherrypick it out of context.

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@RMA_Adil5 @birdeavor You need comprehension skills..

2+2 only = 4
is different from
Only 2+2= 4

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@ItsYahya15 @MakiTheSalafi We don't isolate and cherrypick verses out of context.

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@adezbou @Basedawah how do you even know who Abraham is? How do you know him? How would Muhammad know who Abraham or any of the previous prophets are?

I dare you to answer

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@kingmahdi313c @GodLogic_GL AI? where are ur tafsirs?

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@Islam435 Muhammad is in ur shahada bro.

He's the middle man

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What's the difference between Islam and Mormonism

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@ajeee_22132 So we should believe a book that came 600 years after the fact. With no evidence, no proof, no witnesses.

To tell us a truth about Jesus?

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@Twitmindful @jefson45 @fawzydawah first you have to prove that Muhammed met Gabriel/Jibril.

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@Deenresponds the quran rejects Allah's Fatherhood in any sense,

if you say mercy, his mercy as a master to his slave, his beneficence is only as a master to a slave.

there's no sense where fatherhood is attributed to allah.

you cannot Call allah by anything other than is 99 names.