@_rod_lander_@NuriSunnah@LowStudies It doesn't say the spurting fluid is what comes out from the backbone and the ribs. It could mean the baby comes out of the womb, which at late pregnany, occupies space between the backbone and the ribs.
I don't see a problem with figurative language if he's mortal, not God.
It's very possible that Jesus called God "Father" in a metaphorical sense like the israelites before him. This interpretation doesn't contradict Islam and it's very possible that Allah allowed it at the time.
@eliora_etuk@catvon0@KingDawah1 I can see where you're coming from, but it's still problematic if he's God to say a false statement even in hyperboly. And I actually don't believe Jesus actually meant to lie here, So I lean to the other two options:
-Jesus was a rightous mortal
-The text was altered
@_rod_lander_@NuriSunnah@LowStudies Doesn't say semen comes from between the backbone and the ribs anywhere. Go read the tafsirs.
https://t.co/kgmNEBQjzc
@eliora_etuk@catvon0@KingDawah1 Again, I don't have a problem with the parable itself, the Quran uses the mustard seed in a similar context too. The problem is that he said "it is the smallest seed" when he could have said "It's a very small seed"
@eliora_etuk Assalam Aalaykom, Jesus, Peace be upon him, taught his disciples to call God "Father" in their prayers. And Christians believe they are sons of God metaphorically. So I think that just proves that it's metaphorical.
@Submitter191919@korrathetaymi I read the arabic so Idk about translations.
The Hadith they use for the homo thing has nothing to do with homosexuality, those people are just pervert.
Ayesha met the conditions of mental and physical maturity as per her testimony so we see no problem with the marriage.
@Student190782x@Archetypical20@John316apologia@Acts17David That's only because you're dominated by secular libertarian countries, so you can't practice your apostacy laws. Try apostasizing in middle-ages christian europe or in the Holy Roman Empire.
@catvon0@KingDawah1 Again, you believe Jesus Peace Be Upon Him is God so he must be omniscient. He could have said "it's a very tiny seed" instead of "the smallest seed". So either he didn't know, or he lied, either way he's not God.
@catvon0@KingDawah1 Not Allah's POV, Dhul Qarnain's He's telling a story. No problem with that.
86:6 might be talking about Semen.
86:7 is about the womb during late pregnancy according to Al Qurtubi, which is the most plausible interpretation, so applying the same standard there's still no problem.
@eliora_etuk@catvon0@KingDawah1 Again, I don't have a problem with the parable itself, the Quran uses the mustard seed in a similar context too. The problem is that he said "it is the smallest seed" when he could have said "It's a very small seed"
@catvon0@KingDawah1 That would be okay if he said "it is a very small seed" but saying "the smallest seed" is problematic for the position of him being God.
18:86 says "He found it setting in a muddy spring" describing the man's POV.
Now what's the problem with 86:6 and 86:7?
@Submitter191919@korrathetaymi Nope, there's no vile verses in the Quran as long as you read it charitably in context. The homo thing is pure nonesense, so I won't humor it, but let's talk about his marriage. What's the moral standard that you use, scripture, evolution, science?
@sabenach_@TounsDawla@SonOfJenin We'll have to wait for more research to be done on them, the steles have been just recently unearthed from what I understand.
@Whizdom01 I'm glad you conceded Jesus isn't God, as for 86:7, it doesn't say anything about sperm, the verse can be interpreted as childbirth or the final stages of pregnancy, no errors there.
@juiceman_marty@abdul_now May God guide you brother. Testing your faith harshly is the best way to reach the one true God because he will always answer. I will pray for you.
@LowStudies@_rod_lander_@NuriSunnah And we agree with you on that, but it still shows a lack of knowledge from the part of Jesus, and this is -I think- the third instance. Big evidence against his divinity, peace be upon him.