Michael Payne

Senior Solutions Architect and Engineer, on a journey to reducing climate impact, carbon emissions and waste, advocate for the visually impaired

[Michael Payne @dev_paynes]

@sarah_go_green I would suggest a third option, an MG5 estate. They do really good mileage on a smallish battery, and the pur phase price is often lower.

[Michael Payne @dev_paynes]

@OurCowMolly @Zarch1972 @g__j @WIRED @energystatsuk @Ecodanheating @OctopusEnergy I already use the Mitsubishi ecodan integration and octopus integration with Home Assistant. Programmed to adjusts temperatures to solar generation and cheap Octopus rates. It also works to control my Zappi EV charger and Solis controlled home battery in one neat package.

[Michael Payne @dev_paynes]

@jeremyjudkins_ On a motorway journey, I get roughly 310 miles in an Enyaq at 15 degrees Celsius, 250 miles at -10 degrees Celsius, so you have to wonder how inefficient the Polestart 2 is?

Having said that, if it was 230 miles across 10 journeys in winter, then fair enough.

[Michael Payne @dev_paynes]

@EpicWinningMaz We have only had our @myenergiuk Zappi 5 years, but seen no issues with it.With only 3kW PV, plus have since added a home battery, we see less “free mile” these days but still consider it and EDDI one of the best green decisions we’ve made.We can still get 40 free mile/day summer

[Michael Payne @dev_paynes]

@MikeHarEV @DunkinWedd @AntiEVidiots Also bear in mind, if you do have to motorway charge, if all you need is 50 miles, at 120kW, that will take 6 minutes? Hardly a big frustration

[Michael Payne @dev_paynes]

@MikeHarEV @DunkinWedd @AntiEVidiots There are plenty of BEV that will do 130miles x 2 (260 miles) return even in winter on motorway. I have an Enyaq 80 that does 275 even in winter (admittedly an English winter, not regularly -15 degrees)

[Michael Payne @dev_paynes]

@UNIBLAB7 @LieberFilms @MattWallace1701 You have me interested now, I’m want to know now what other people’s experience was of installing an EV charger.

To anyone that has ever had an EV Charger installed at home….

How much did it cost (in total) and what country do you live in?

[Michael Payne @dev_paynes]

@UNIBLAB7 @LieberFilms @MattWallace1701 A quick read of American Reddit posts for people that live in and around NYC suggests a fully installed costs is sub $1500 dollars, so quite comparable to UK prices. Unless of course trenches need to be dug, or if you need an entire house feed upgrade.

[Michael Payne @dev_paynes]

@UNIBLAB7 @LieberFilms @MattWallace1701 There will always be the odd exception that is significantly more expensive. In the UK, some streets used “loop” wiring, not to be confused with ring mains. This meant that houses shared a feed rather than each having their own. These can costs £5-10k just to upgrade the feed.

[Michael Payne @dev_paynes]

@UNIBLAB7 @LieberFilms @MattWallace1701 I’m certainly not trying to say I have a comparative quote, or make unsupported claims, however I will repeat, the screen shot you gave, if you read even the first few paragraphs, are for public charging infrastructure.

[Michael Payne @dev_paynes]

@UNIBLAB7 @LieberFilms @MattWallace1701 The costs mentioned in the article above are for public charging, so the equipment must be extensively vandal proof etc, and allow for managed charge session payments. The cost for a private install on a house or in a garage is significantly lower.

[Michael Payne @dev_paynes]

@UNIBLAB7 @LieberFilms @MattWallace1701 I bought a slightly more expensive charger (about £100 more) so I can make the most of solar. I get about 20-45miles per day for free with that, 6 months a year. Rest of year, it gives me a few hours of free heating with my ASHP.

[Michael Payne @dev_paynes]

@UNIBLAB7 @LieberFilms @MattWallace1701 In the UK most come free with the car, but let’s assume you buy second hand, then typically about £750 installed? Lots of people are entitled to a £350 grant, and some get the full cost back as a grant. So I guess between £0 and £750 is typical. I save that cost in 6 months?

[Michael Payne @dev_paynes]

@PeoplesTariff @greenstripshow Both my MG ZS EV and Skoda Enyaq would cool and heat while charging. Fast and Rapid charging.

[Michael Payne @dev_paynes]

@wallersaur @myenergiuk @EVPuzzle Remember, you can still just set a schedule, and that will override Inteligent Octopus, so worst case scenario, just schedule 23:30 to 05:30

[Michael Payne @dev_paynes]

@wallersaur @myenergiuk @EVPuzzle Absolutely brilliant, works really well. Always reliable.

[Michael Payne @dev_paynes]

@NotTheSame_Cord @janrosenow In fact, with the help of a leased EV through Motability, some 10 year old solar panels, and a home battery, I average about £500 to £600 a year fuel bill.

That’s:
- Heating
- Powering a house
- Working from Home
- 10k miles a year of EV charging

[Michael Payne @dev_paynes]

@NotTheSame_Cord @janrosenow I too am happy to share the COP data if you are unconvinced. I live in a 1890s property with a Mitsubishi Eco Dan, and the house is toasty warm all year, and spend MUCH less per year than with a gas boiler.

[Michael Payne @dev_paynes]

@NotTheSame_Cord @janrosenow This is simply not possible with resistance heating