I’m really impressed that Jane Doe had the bravery to call her rapists on the phone & ask them what they think happened. It must have been so horrible to hear them lie, twist events, & try to manipulate. It must have made her feel insane & scared. But she did it.
I took issue with that guy’s tweet about not enjoying spending time with his kids for several reasons, but the thing that immediately stood out to me is the manipulative way it’s written.
He speaks it as if he’s reaching out for help and advice but he’s writing in a way that seems to me is supposed to lead you to the point he’s actually trying to make and validate.
That idea is that the notion of a father being closely involved in the life of his children while they are young is a modern invention, that this is almost solely a mother’s role, and the reason he doesn’t enjoy it is because it’s not a job for men.
Why do I think he’s trying to be manipulative and not just being honest and vulnerable? First of all is the way he starts off asking if he’s a monster. He starts with this intense and over-the-top, dramatic “woe is me” language. It is extreme so you get the idea that he must feel really bad about it. BUT then he almost immediately gives away his game by bringing up his idea of this being “historically normal”. If he was really so distraught and felt as guilty as he first makes it sound, why would he follow it up with his idea that it’s historically normal for men to feel this way? He is implanting his excuse right there. The whole tweet is actually a disguised argument that the way he feels PROVES that it’s not the historical norm that men be involved in raising their young children.
You can read this an unfair accusation but just really read how it’s written. It’s full of melodrama and hyperbole that is meant to trick you. When someone is down on themselves the natural reaction is to want to affirm them because it looks “brave” or “honest” or “sincere”. When you perceive vulnerability, the instinct of a kind person is to drop your own guard and expect the best of the person. “Oh he was open about his struggles, I should hear him out.
But you see, that is one of the most basic ways a manipulative person traps you. “Well he was willing to be honest in such a personal way so I guess I can trust his motives”.
But if you examine it a bit more, why is he actually saying he feels bad? Because he loves his kids and wants to want to spend time with them? To me it reads like he’s blaming the cultural expectations that he thinks are unfair. That he should not be expected to be as involved as he is and that it is YOUR fault that he feels like a monster if you don’t affirm his view that this is actually a woman’s role. Why else would he appeal to his idea of “history”?
So I will contend that he was not actually vulnerably reaching out for help, but making an argument disguised as a post from a discouraged father. He says he’s a writer. A writer knows how to use language to try and make a point. I don’t believe for a second that he’s in as much despair as he makes it sound. Sorry if that seems harsh, but if this guy doesn’t see the problem with telling the whole internet he doesn’t want to be around his kids for more than a little over an hour a week, then he should be able to handle some harsh judgement.
I find it really amusing when men say “I want to be a father, but I don’t want to be a modern father involved with childcare” yeah and I want to be rich but I don’t want to be a modern person who works for it, I want feudal lands and inherited wealth bro
Woman on X: “I am struggling with being the only person my baby wants during a sleep regression”
X: “U HATE YOUR BABY U TERRIBLE HUMAN U SHOULD DIE”
Man on X: “I literally hate my child”
X: “Aw, parenting is tough! You’re doing great!”
The verified brand situation is getting out of control. Quick thread of twitter blue brands, and brands who might be pissed off at Elon right about now.
Yea cause that’s what the world needs - the repetition of the Ukrainian scenario with Kazakhstan. Thanks for your expert opinion, my sweet summer child
@mtcozylove@DrewOCCRP I would say that now is the best time to sever those ties, since it seems the Russian army is somewhat occupied elsewhere. Close the borders with reference to sanctions and see how things go. Currently there is the best chance the world will try and help you to do this in years.