Daniel Grieve

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[Daniel Grieve @dnlgrv]

@jeremysmithco I think your rule of thumb is good 👍 My rule of thumb along these lines is don’t cause surprises. A rails dev would expect to be able to call that without introducing other objects (or whatever is triggering the exception)

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@excid3 Ahh yes. Are they anything like ours where they lie about things? There's no way she ate a plate full of carrots and broccoli... even if they logged it on the app. I need evidence.

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@jeremysmithco @strzibnyj Enter a complex enough code base and those mystery guests are likely to affect what you’re testing. Fixtures somewhat simulate the real application (users with real data). A clean DB for every test is good (quick) for testing but unrealistic.

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@jeremysmithco 100% Building a good fixture set is a skill. Factories don’t help with these scenarios much either mind you (unless you happen to find the 1 test that sets up your exact scenario). Still lots of improvements to make on both sides

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@adamwathan And you don’t even have a dog!

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@nateberkopec Can we add salary in there too? No need to waste everyone's time by hiding it.

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@jeremysmithco It actually messed up a lot of things for us like analytics events being sent from controllers. Might be an “us” issue though. We had to disable it entirely

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I know what they mean, but the wording... I paid a *lot* of f-ing tax.

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@nateberkopec I'm in as long as that 50% cash comes in a big duffel bag with $$$ on the side.

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@jnunemaker Yeah, I spent way too long trying to long press on the screen while sat in my car before thinking it would be something I’d do on my phone.

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@nateberkopec My code already barely compiles and I didn’t even use any AI - have I been living in the future this whole time?

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How I can tell they didn't look:

"Hey I looked at your website and it's got a great design"

No, no it doesn't.

[Daniel Grieve @dnlgrv]

@ccarella Not quite the same but compare watching live/scheduled TV to on-demand. There are times for both.

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Is it safe yet? Can I get back to work now please? #ruby

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@_swanson that'll do it! We run a ~hourly cypress based "integration test" outside of our main app that checks the important flows for staging/production just in case we break something by accident. A bit overkill but has proved useful!