Several U.S. Air Force KC-135 "Stratotankers" and KC-46A "Pegasus" are active now near the Strait of Hormuz, along with a U.S. Navy P-8A "Poseidon" maritime intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance aircraft.
we’re back to bombing the shit out of them.
The only way to guarantee the regime doesn’t try to rebuild their nuclear program and massacre more Iranian people is either we assume control over them directly or we destroy them.
It’s the Mass Effect 3 debate all over again. lol
I would agree, but not for the reasons you think.
Trump is gonna demand de facto control of Iran from the mullahs like he is in de facto control of Venezuela from the Chavistas.
The only skepticism is whether the officials we’re talking to will actually be Iran’s Delcy. If not,
@AlbertonFreeman@mdubowitz@JonahDispatch If it’s a Venezuela-style situation where the regime only technically exists while the US de facto runs everything until the country can transition to another government, though?
That could work.
If, and only if, the people we’re working with are willing to be Iran’s Delcy.
@YakovMerkin@StacyPresley11@ConceptualJames Yup. Rubio is a known hawk so they wouldn’t even bother talking to him. Vance’s reputation makes talks at least possible.
So now the hedge begins. If the deal actually gives us meaningful concessions and permanent oversight and control, fine.
If not, Rubio’s a go.
@DankyKong94@StacyPresley11@ConceptualJames Well Trump confirmed sanctions are still in place and the military hasn’t pulled out.
So yeah, hedging.
Either we’re Venezuela-ing Iran or we start bombing them again if that fails.
@orbitdesignlab@mattforney And also why the terms of the MOU are deliberately withheld until Friday with a lot of horseshit coming out of Iranian state media. Those guys are consolidating power before ceding control of the country over to us.
The skepticism is whether they’ll actually play the Delcy role.
@orbitdesignlab@mattforney I’m one of those people now where I think I know Trump’s real strategy and understand why he thinks it can work, and also remain skeptical it can.
Trump is trying to “Venezuela” Iran, and thinks the officials he’s making a deal with can become Iran’s Delcy Rodriguez.
@theguiltlessman@ThomBrady5 I am sympathetic to the argument that all factions of the IRGC are fanatics who will never voluntarily submit to Trump and do our bidding like Delcy Rodriguez did in Venezuela.
But I am still inclined to try.
@STILL_LOUIE@howardbasker@LauraLoomer If not, we go back to bombing the shit out of them.
Those are the only two options for the Islamic regime. Trump is not Obama and he will not accept any deal that will empower them in the future. Either they voluntarily become our bitch or die.
@STILL_LOUIE@howardbasker@LauraLoomer Unless the price for that $300 billion is ceding de facto control to us Venezeula-style.
No worry of sponsoring terrorism, building missiles, etc. if we control the purse strings, the resources, and the top levels of government.
That is if Ghalibaf is willing to be Iran’s Delcy
@StacyPresley11@ConceptualJames To hedge.
Vance takes one side of the debate, Rubio takes the other.
If this fails, then he can say it was Vance’s idea and then go with Rubio.
@ThomBrady5 Either they became another Venezuela where we de facto run them through certain regime personnel willing to be our bitch, or they destroy themselves through infighting and economic collapse.
I like it.
@libertatumadvo@bumbadum14 Only up to a certain point. The Gauls that Caesar genocided eventually became part of Rome for the next 5 centuries.
There is no coexistence with barbarians. The idea of universal human values is a post-WW2 delusion.
@bumbadum14 He didn’t purge Lindsay Graham from the GOP, though. He purged Massie.
Levin isn’t privy to the actual details of the deal, but I suspect he’ll be happier about the result by the end of everything than you will be. lol